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re: Sedona/Grand Canyon Recs

Posted on 1/12/19 at 4:22 am to
Posted by MLU
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 4:22 am to
Correct. Reservations open Feb 1st and it's $140 for the campsite for a couple days. Fall break is the slow season though and they have a good shot at getting in. The weather is easier on the hike out, too. Of course the helicopter is available, too. Lol. It's not a day hike though not that anyone wants to leave immediately after arriving.
Posted by Desiderita01
AZ
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:23 pm to
If you do Devil's Bridge you might have better luck doing it during the week, as it gets VERY crowded on the weekends. Always, the earlier the better. You really can't go wrong with any hiking in Sedona, it's beautiful everywhere. You can make a loop with Soldier's Pass, Brins Mesa and Jordan Trail that is very scenic and pretty easy. West Fork Trail is also great and would be beautiful in the fall!

I second Elote as a must-go - maybe go during the week, or earlier in the evening...I've waited over 2 hours before! Mariposa is more upscale, but great if you want a nicer evening. Hudson, Hillside, Creekside...lots of different options for dining.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 10:43 pm to
Give the family a special treat and completely free.

One night drive down one of the roads off the main highway. There will probably not be another vehicle with you. Stop on side of the road and tell them to step out the car, make sure to turn off your car lights. Have them stand there in the pitch darkness and look up at the stars, just completely amazing.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:10 pm to
Just booked a long weekend in Sedona for the end of April. Arriving into PHX Wed night and leaving Sunday afternoon.

Good info in this thread for sure so far.

Looking at these 3 tentatively for lodging. Any reviews/advice on these?

The Orchards Inn
El Portal Sedona
Casa Sedona Inn


Also torn on whether or not we want to tackle the GC being that we'll only be in the area for basically a long weekend. Here's how I see our itinerary:

Fly in Wed night
Thurs - Hike around Sedona
Fri - GC? Not sure I want to tie up a whole day going to the GC if most of it will be spent in the car.
Sat - Sedona morning hikes/Jerome/Cottonwood
Sun - Sedona shops, etc, fly out of PHX @ 4:15

This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 3:10 am
Posted by The Dozer
H-Town
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:30 am to
Great stuff in here. Staying at Enchantment Resort in early May for 5 nights. Plans so far are hiking, Grand Canyon, golf at Seven Canyons/spa day for wife, and milling around town/going to some restaurants.

2 questions:
1) anyone ever played at Seven Canyons? How is it?

2) has anyone done the train ride from Sedona to Grand Canyon? Is it worth it?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129005 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:41 am to
There is no train ride from Sedona to GC. You have to drive to Williams to catch the train. Williams is 30 miles west of Flagstaff.

I’ve done that train ride a few times when family had visited. I liked it for certain situations(family that can’t walk around too much or young kids that will find the train fun). It really just depends on what you want. If you do the train....you only get 3-4 hours at the Grand Canyon before you have to go back to Williams. And....you can’t see the Grand Canyon from the train...there is one part where you see GC from the train for like 3 seconds and then woods block the view again.

You can drive the 2 hours to GC (South Rim)from Sedona and explore on your own and have more time there.

This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 5:43 am
Posted by The Dozer
H-Town
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:46 am to
Yea sounds like I’m basically going to have to drive halfway there anyway. The train is pricey too... the website says it’s one way. Is that true? Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me...
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129005 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:48 am to
No you can do same day round trip rides. That’s all I’ve ever done (I’ve taken the train 3 times).

There are several packages and different riding cars. Some people take the train and stay at one of the hotels right at the rim for a couple days before taking the train back.
Posted by The Dozer
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:20 am to
Sounds like we’re not really old or young enough for the train. May just end up driving. Should be a nice drive anyway, correct?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129005 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:26 am to
It shouldn’t be bad.

Plus....you can go at your own pace and stay as long as you like at the South Rim since it’s only a 2 hour drive back.

Imagine staying to see the sunset over the GC? I’ve never done it....bet it’s amazing.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129005 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:45 am to
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Fri - GC? Not sure I want to tie up a whole day going to the GC if most of it will be spent in the car.


It’s about a 2 hour drive each way from Sedona. Not that bad. If you have never been to the GC I highly recommend going.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:37 pm to
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Plus....you can go at your own pace and stay as long as you like at the South Rim since it’s only a 2 hour drive back.


I was out there today...was beautiful weather with snow still on the rim...

I was in and out in 2 hours, I hiked down just a bit and watched both movies in the center...

Spleen, if the kids are young, you might not want to take the long hike from the south rim...it gets hot down a ways and you'd need to pack water
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:45 am to
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Spleen, if the kids are young, you might not want to take the long hike from the south rim...it gets hot down a ways and you'd need to pack water



They'll be 12 and 17, so no worries there. They're both in better shape than the wife and I are.

I think we've decided to make a full day of the GC and enter from the East gate, and drive down to the South rim, then find a decent hike to find some seclusion adn take in the sunset before heading back to Sedona.

I never can remember, but how are the National Parks on alcohol? Wouldn't mind packing in a bottle of wine for the wife and I to have while watching the sunset, but want to be respectful of the rules.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:03 pm to
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I never can remember, but how are the National Parks on alcohol? Wouldn't mind packing in a bottle of wine for the wife and I to have while watching the sunset, but want to be respectful of the rules


You'll be fine...I don't think they can prohibit it simply due to the amount of campers rolling in...

They have cabins and campsites after you pay to get in...

This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 11:26 pm to
Went to Sedona and GC with kids a few years ago. Our favorite hike was Doe Mountain with our then 4 year old. We hauled him up in a backpack carrier (wasn't very much elevation gain) but once at the top it's just a huge plateau where he could run around. However, be careful around the edge. There are some great views. Pink Jeep tours were great as well. Another great hike was West Fork... follows a creek and at one point there's a large area of rocks and water the kids can play in.

Restaurant recommendation is Indian Gardens Café and Market. Great Reuben. If you're lucky, you'll see someone kneeling down in front of the tree out front and talking to it as it was clearly damaged or sick at some point

A guide is not necessary for the GC. Just familiarize yourself with some of the viewpoints and go. Hike down some of Bright Angel Trail... most people just go down a ways and turn around.
Posted by Aug1
Member since Nov 2013
79 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 10:15 pm to
I was at the south rim last weekend and we basically had free range of the park. Stayed at the bright angel lodge. Saw some elk and and a ring tailed cat out towards hermits nest after watching the sunrise. It was cold though, about 22 degrees with snow on the ground.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 5:46 pm to
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It’s about a 2 hour drive each way from Sedona. Not that bad. If you have never been to the GC I highly recommend going


Yeah I think we’re gonna go, being that we are that close. Definitely won’t be our last time in the area (or so we hope), but you never know.

Ended up booking a room at the El Portal. Cool looking Boutique downtown Sedona. Have reservations at Dahl and DiLuca for dinner one night also. Will probably book a pink Jeep tour (Broken Arrow).
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Bleezy
Dirty South
Member since Sep 2018
274 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Definitely want to hike a day or two, but not sure which trails. Not super challenging, but something kids and adults can do


Apache Trail

Super cool driving. Lot's of places to pull over and climb. Great views. Take plenty of water...
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5500 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Definitely want to hike a day or two, but not sure which trails. Not super challenging, but something kids and adults can do

quote:


Apache Trail

Super cool driving. Lot's of places to pull over and climb. Great views. Take plenty of water...

that is not anywhere near sedona or the GC
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35572 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:28 am to
sedona is pretty cool. nearby attractions that we enjoyed:

walnut canyon national monument
petrified forest national park. be advised that you might be interrogated/searched to make sure that you haven't removed any petrified wood
tuzigoot nm. probably my favorite ruins that i have seen. also, cottonwood is a pretty cool town.
montezuma castle/well nm
wupatki / sunset crater nms
grand canyon north rim, it's at a higher elevation and is closed seasonally, so check before you just decide to go. it will be way less crowded than the south rim

i'm a bit of a park/monument junkie, so that's where i favor. if that's something your crew might be interested in, buy the $80 park pass that is good for almost all parks and monuments for a year.

i was not impressed with the food selection at oak creek brewery, but the beer is pretty good. there's a ton of shite to see and do in the sedona/flagstaff area.

even if you have no plans of doing anything north of sedona, you should make the drive to flagstaff on 89a, it's pretty incredible.
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