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London, Innsbruck, Salzburg, Munich

Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by floyd of pink
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:39 am
The wife and I are going to these 4 cities in April for a span of 2 weeks. Anybody got any tips, favorite spots, must-sees, etc?

We aren't into the super touristy things, but then again we don't want to miss out on anything cool is that's the case.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:48 am to
I would highly recommend checking out the Ice Cave by Salzburg. There's also the Salt Mines.

We did the Sound of Music bike tour and I thought it was a good way to see the city and some parts you wouldn't normally see.

How are you getting around? I'd recommend a car rental in the Alps it will really help
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:57 am to
Salzburg: the Stiftsbackerei St Peter, a small wood fired bakery using freshly ground flour milled on site using a waterwheel powered by an ancient water diversion (one of five such channels). Website here: LINK. Also the daily food market in University Square, a great place for snacks, edible souvenirs, and seeing locals. The Stiegl brewery tours are interesting as well.
Posted by floyd of pink
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:44 am to
Debating car rental. We were primarily getting around by train.
Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:58 am to
The Eagle's Nest near Berchtesgaden (between Munich and Salzburg) is an absolute must-do.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:59 am to
Private car/driver for exploring outside of Salzburg is a good option. Ours was through the hotel so I don't remember what company, but it was basically a local guy from one of the alpine towns who knows everything and just spends a full day driving you round in a 7 series.

Hallstatt is a highlight, but it's better if you can move from place to place easily (either you driving or someone else). Our driver timed the lighting with the stops for the best photographs, it was awesome. He knew pretty much everything from the various tours (third reich info, sound of music), but we appreciated not being tied to one of those themes specifically.

Good views from the fortress as well.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:28 am to
Love Salzburg. As others have said, be sure to check out the lake region east of Salzburg, particularly Hallstatt.

Let me know if you need restaurant recommendations. I just went in September for the 2nd time.

General tip, if you are simply nice to people and friendly, you will have some cool experiences. We went to eat at a restaurant that was at the base of a little hotel that was recommended to us. The owners daughter waited on us, and because we were nice, she invited us to the next night have a private wine and cheese tasting in their personal wine cellar that was built in an underground cave. It was fantastic!

Munich is cool too.

This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:47 am to
Driving that area is extremely easy. I would highly recommend a car rental, there's so much to see and do there outside of the cities. i would spend half your nights outside of the cities, there's some great small town B&bs and what not.
Posted by convertedtiger
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:58 am to
Even if it is a bit touristy, one of the day tours of King Lugwig's castles are great out of Munich. We did a day tour of Neuschwanstein and Linderhof last year and loved it. Also, have some beers at one of the Augustiner establishments. WE ate, and drank, at Augustiner Keller which is where the beer garden is great. We also ate at Augustiner Klosterwirt. I highly recommend both. We loved the Augustiner Dunkel.

If you are in Munich in late April, they have Fruhlingsfest going on from April 20- May 8. It is pretty much the Octoberfest of the spring without all the crowds.
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:52 am to
Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:11 am to
Munich: the Hofbrauhaus is a tourist Mecca—skip it except for a walk thru. Go instead to the Augustiner Keller or Zum Augustiner, where actual locals go to drink and eat.

The Viktualienmarkt area is fun, full of food shops and stalls, with a nearby Hacker-Pschorr beer halll/Restaurant, der Pschorr. Also worth a visit are Dallmayr, an incredible deli/speciality food store. The department store Manufactum is in the same general area and offers some interesting made in Germany items, with a focus on handmade and utility items, plus it has a bakery inside,

Munich has a very interesting museum on the Nazis rise to power, located on the site of the former party HQ. Worth a visit, esp as it examines the systematic undermining of freedom of the press and control of media as a key factor in the consolidation of power.
Posted by convertedtiger
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:15 pm to
Seeing the Glockenspiel in Marienplatz in Munich is very cool as well. It plays at 11, noon and 5pm.

Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Munich: the Hofbrauhaus is a tourist Mecca—skip it except for a walk thru. Go instead to the Augustiner Keller or Zum Augustiner, where actual locals go to drink and eat.



Hofbrauhaus is still cool IMO, although I agree you have to go to others.

quote:

Munich has a very interesting museum on the Nazis rise to power, located on the site of the former party HQ. Worth a visit, esp as it examines the systematic undermining of freedom of the press and control of media as a key factor in the consolidation of power.



Is the "Documentation Center" or whatever it's called? We didn't get to go even though we had planned on it.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:01 pm to
If you like beer I suggest going to the Augustiner in Salzburg Augustiner website. It is not affiliated with the Augustiner in Munich but it is an actual Benedictine-run brewery in Salzburg. Bring cash, as they do not take card.

The Alter Markt in the Altstadt is a fun place to go during the day, and the large cathedral, Mozart's Birth House, and the castle are all right there. St Peter restaurant touts themselves as being one of the oldest restaurant in the world, and the Wilder Mann is a nice local restaurant to dine in the Altstadt.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 1:48 pm to
Yes...Documentation Center is the neutral name used rather than “museum”, so that it is clear that the past is not being glorified or celebrated, but is simply being documented. How the Germans deal with their awful recent past is very interesting. In Austria, specifically in Salzburg, we noticed bronze squares set into sidewalks. They’re called “stumbling blocks”, and each documents where a citizen was arrested or seized who ultimately perished at the hands of the Third Reich. Short text explains why the person was targeted (ie, labor activism, religion, political resistance, race, etc). Read more here: LINK
Posted by BamaFinland
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:57 pm to
Castle Itter if you are into WW2 history. Last battle of WW2 in Europe. Battle in which the U.S. and German Wehrmacht fought side by side against the Waffen SS.

Grossglockner and Zugspitze. Tallest mountains in Germany and Austria.

Drive the alpine road.

Schneiderweisse brewery in Kelheim about an hours drive from Munich. Arguably the best beer in Germany.
Posted by kjntgr
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:04 pm to
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Posted by drockw1
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:34 am to
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Augustiner in Salzburg


The Braüstubl is my favorite biergarten in the world, even better than the Keller in Munich.

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MORE SALZBURG:
Either walk up or take the funicular up to Hohensalzburg Fortress for a fantastic view of the city on one side, and the hills/mountains on the other side. There's a panoramic view restaurant (didn't visit), but also a patio spot where you can get a beer or wine with gorgeous views.

There are paths along both sides of the river which are great for evening strolls in the summer.

StiegelKeller also looks to have a great view, that's a place we'll probably try for the first time next month.
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 1:30 pm
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