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12 Days in Italy
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:56 pm
First 3 days in Rome
After that i'm open. Looking for suggestions, experiences etc...
Only note is i'm not into Venice so it will probably be left out.
After that i'm open. Looking for suggestions, experiences etc...
Only note is i'm not into Venice so it will probably be left out.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:58 pm to HollierThanThou
I’m jealous as frick.
Few questions for you.
Are you flying in and out of Rome?
When is your trip?
Have you ever been to Italy?
Would you rather enjoy 2-3 places or see 5+?
Few questions for you.
Are you flying in and out of Rome?
When is your trip?
Have you ever been to Italy?
Would you rather enjoy 2-3 places or see 5+?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:09 pm to HollierThanThou
Train to Florence and hang there a couple of days with day trips to Venice and Pisa.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:27 pm to HollierThanThou
Where are you flying out of? Rome?
Some of my favorite days in italy are away from the touristy cities and touristy things. Enjoy
Some of my favorite days in italy are away from the touristy cities and touristy things. Enjoy
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:37 pm to HollierThanThou
Hill towns in Umbria. I was there over the Christmas break. We did 5 nights in Rome, 2 in Orvieto, and 2 in Venice. All by train. You can do Florence instead of Venice. Umbria is between Rome and Florence, so it flows easy (and is a quiet break between the cities).
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:52 pm to HollierThanThou
Rome, Venice, Florence, Amalfi Coast
Posted on 1/8/18 at 4:33 pm to HollierThanThou
So you got Venice suggestions anyway. Lol
Are you into wine?
Are you into wine?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:09 pm to HollierThanThou
rome. amalfi coast. florence. venice,lake como. sicily is great too but need more time. 3 days minimum rome. can do venice in one night and one full day.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 5:10 pm to AlceeFortier
venice worth seeing despite ur caveat.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 8:23 pm to Spirit of Dunson
This is a great suggested itinerary for a first visit to Italy. Rome, Orvieto, Florence, maybe a couple of smaller towns along the way....do it by train. Orvieto has a funicular up to the town on the hilltop. Tuscany is most people’s dream vision of Italian countryside.
Or, do Rome and south....Naples and Amalfi, taking in Vesuvius, Pompeii or Herculaneum, Positano. Be warned that many Americans loathe Naples, calling it dirty, criminal, graffitied, etc. I felt right at home there, go figure.
But I’d not pack Rome, Florence, and Amalfi coast into one trip, unless you’re crazy restless. Slow down and enjoy Italy, where lunch can take two,hours.
Also, stay longer in Rome. It is ridiculously full of art and history.....the Vatican museum takes the better part of a day, St Peters and the Square is worth a few hours....Capitoline Museum, the Forum, Trajans column and market, the Colosseum, la Bocca Verita, the Villla Borghese, countless churches full of spectacular art, the ancient Mithraeum temple under San Clemente church......and that’s not counting all of the coffee and gelato you’ll want to eat, plus strolling every evening to,see the monuments lit up at night.
Or, do Rome and south....Naples and Amalfi, taking in Vesuvius, Pompeii or Herculaneum, Positano. Be warned that many Americans loathe Naples, calling it dirty, criminal, graffitied, etc. I felt right at home there, go figure.
But I’d not pack Rome, Florence, and Amalfi coast into one trip, unless you’re crazy restless. Slow down and enjoy Italy, where lunch can take two,hours.
Also, stay longer in Rome. It is ridiculously full of art and history.....the Vatican museum takes the better part of a day, St Peters and the Square is worth a few hours....Capitoline Museum, the Forum, Trajans column and market, the Colosseum, la Bocca Verita, the Villla Borghese, countless churches full of spectacular art, the ancient Mithraeum temple under San Clemente church......and that’s not counting all of the coffee and gelato you’ll want to eat, plus strolling every evening to,see the monuments lit up at night.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:08 pm to Drew Orleans
Flying into Rome. (Probably out as well, easier for point redemption)
Mid November is the time. (Have to due to wife’s schedule)
First time to Italy
As far as # of places, it depends. If they feel like a different place then I’m down. For ex, went to Thailand and spend 4 days in Chaing Mai, Bangkok and Phi Phi area. All 3 felt like totally different experiences.
Mid November is the time. (Have to due to wife’s schedule)
First time to Italy
As far as # of places, it depends. If they feel like a different place then I’m down. For ex, went to Thailand and spend 4 days in Chaing Mai, Bangkok and Phi Phi area. All 3 felt like totally different experiences.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:11 pm to VABuckeye
quote:
Are you into wine?
I’m normally not but the wife is...however I generally get hammered a time or two with the locals while on vacay.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:13 pm to AlceeFortier
Sell me on Venice.
I’m envisioning dirty canals and pickpockets. (Legitimately had one friend get robbed and another caught a guy trying lol)
I’m envisioning dirty canals and pickpockets. (Legitimately had one friend get robbed and another caught a guy trying lol)
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:03 pm to HollierThanThou
I have mixed feelings about Venice. Probably one of the most beautiful and interesting cities I've ever been to... but the economy is so dependent upon tourism that the city just feels greedy. Cover charges at restaurants, upcharges everywhere, etc. However, we stayed in the middle of the city and that made it great. Walking around at night after the day tourists left was very enjoyable.
Venice wasn't on my list, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Venice wasn't on my list, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:23 am to Spirit of Dunson
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However, we stayed in the middle of the city and that made it great. Walking around at night after the day tourists left was very enjoyable.
This. It gets VERY crowded during the day. Definitely worth 1-2 days but you probably won’t ever go back.
We did see a guy get pickpocketed (keep your distance from the street vendors selling toys). Victim chased the guy down and brought him to police, but I saw the same guy back on the street later the same day. Keep your wallet in your front pocket and you’ll be fine.
Skip the gondola ride.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:07 am to HollierThanThou
Venice
Beautiful city. We stayed about a block from St. Mark's Basilica and the Piazza San Marco. We were there in the heat of August and there was no odor at all from the water. Yes, it was crowded but we felt completely safe and didn't wee any signs of crime. It's a fantastic city to walk and explore because around every corner is a canal that's more charming than the last one. If you're willing to venture out beyond the obvious tourist areas there are some great restaurants. My favorite bakery in the world is in Venice.
Beautiful city. We stayed about a block from St. Mark's Basilica and the Piazza San Marco. We were there in the heat of August and there was no odor at all from the water. Yes, it was crowded but we felt completely safe and didn't wee any signs of crime. It's a fantastic city to walk and explore because around every corner is a canal that's more charming than the last one. If you're willing to venture out beyond the obvious tourist areas there are some great restaurants. My favorite bakery in the world is in Venice.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 9:03 am to HollierThanThou
I'd skip Venice in favor of Rome/Florence. Are you a checklist tourist, or more of a traveler interested in how people live?
--renting a car or public transit?
--deeply interested in food/production/artisan stuff, high end dining, or just happy to get quality at a decent price?
In Rome, consider staying in Trastevere, in an Air BnB. It is still a real neighborhood full of people, rather than solely dominated by tourists like so much of the city center. Check out Katie Parla's blog and city guides for true recs on Roman food (so much incredible mediocre food there due to massive tourism). Walk as much as possible, as the cityscape itself is an attraction.
In Florence, consider the Oltr'Arno neighborhood as your base, on the opposite side of the river from the center of town. Close enough to walk, but home to artisans' workshops, smaller restaurants catering to locals, etc.
Do you want rural countryside experiences as well? An agriturismo stay is one of the best parts of Italy, to me. Agriturismi are working farms that take in paying guests. Simple accomodations, but often you can observe olive/grape harvest, or oil pressing, or whatever farming/animal husbandry is happening during your stay. Here's one site that lists many: LINK
Perhaps instead of Orvieto, you might consider Siena. It is set in the hills of the Val di Chiana.....not as big as Florence, so slower pace, more relaxing.
--renting a car or public transit?
--deeply interested in food/production/artisan stuff, high end dining, or just happy to get quality at a decent price?
In Rome, consider staying in Trastevere, in an Air BnB. It is still a real neighborhood full of people, rather than solely dominated by tourists like so much of the city center. Check out Katie Parla's blog and city guides for true recs on Roman food (so much incredible mediocre food there due to massive tourism). Walk as much as possible, as the cityscape itself is an attraction.
In Florence, consider the Oltr'Arno neighborhood as your base, on the opposite side of the river from the center of town. Close enough to walk, but home to artisans' workshops, smaller restaurants catering to locals, etc.
Do you want rural countryside experiences as well? An agriturismo stay is one of the best parts of Italy, to me. Agriturismi are working farms that take in paying guests. Simple accomodations, but often you can observe olive/grape harvest, or oil pressing, or whatever farming/animal husbandry is happening during your stay. Here's one site that lists many: LINK
Perhaps instead of Orvieto, you might consider Siena. It is set in the hills of the Val di Chiana.....not as big as Florence, so slower pace, more relaxing.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:03 am to HollierThanThou
12 days is a really nice amount of time in Italy.
Rome 2-3 days tops.
I would hit up some Tuscan towns on the way to Florence. Orvieto is a great suggestion. Siena, San Gigimano, etc etc.
Cinque Terre would be a wonderful place to spend a couple of days.
Rome 2-3 days tops.
I would hit up some Tuscan towns on the way to Florence. Orvieto is a great suggestion. Siena, San Gigimano, etc etc.
Cinque Terre would be a wonderful place to spend a couple of days.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:10 am to Fun Bunch
Tuscan towns.
Pienza, Montalcino for Brunello) and Montepulciano are all great towns. An easy way to sample some wine is to go to an enoteca. The enoteca in Greve is fantastic.
Pienza, Montalcino for Brunello) and Montepulciano are all great towns. An easy way to sample some wine is to go to an enoteca. The enoteca in Greve is fantastic.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:26 am to Spirit of Dunson
quote:Orvieto was a cool stop in Umbria.
Umbria is between Rome and Florence, so it flows easy (and is a quiet break between the cities).
Also had Montalcino, Montepulciano, Sienna, and Chianti wine region dabbled around in there (Tuscany Region).
Going to wine country is one of the best parts about visiting Italy. It's a can't miss.
World class wine that is dirt cheap. Really, the table wine is better than a lot of wine available in the US.
It's pristine countryside. By law, they aren't allowed to make modifications to the outside of buildings or even build new construction.
And all of the food is so fresh. Very different from the Olive Garden type of Italian we eat in the US. Lots of olive oil, not a lot of seasoning. Terrific.
We spent around 12 days when we were there this last time. We did the Amalfi coast (most gorgeous place on the earth), Rome, Umbria, Tuscany, Florence, and Venice.
I'd say cut out Venice. And focus on Florence, wine country, Rome, and research the Amalfi coast as an option.
Plenty of things to do between Rome, Florence, and the areas between to fill up your 12 days.
Have fun!
Ciao, Ciao.
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