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WiFi runs super slow

Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4441 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:18 pm
We are paying $100 a month for our WiFi. It’s in a centralized location of the house but unless you’re on Ethernet it runs fairly slow on WiFi. Streaming is almost useless at times from how bad it is, especially in my bedroom.

The reason the wifi is that expensive was to try and and ensure streaming wasn’t an issue. Obviously that’s not working. It’s an Arris router that we are renting from the company (MaxxSouth, use to be Cableone). The company sucks but don’t have much of choice besides them.

My house is a little over 2000 square feet. One floor and was built in the 60s.

I guess my question is.... Is my house possible an issue or is it the rented router or a combination of both?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:59 pm to
Could be any number of things. Is it just one device, a modem + wifi router combo? If the wifi is slow when in the same room as that device, then it could just be crappy. You can buy a quality router yourself, and disable the wifi and routing on that modem. If wifi speeds are alright when you are in the same room, but just much slower in other rooms, then the house might be an issue. Is there a bathroom right next to the room with the router? Tile and mirrors tend to block wifi almost completely. Or are the interior walls masonry? That could do it, too. If the house is a problem it's not a show-stopper, you will just have to get a mesh wifi system and place your nodes strategically go optimize coverage.

But my bet is the modem/router/wifi combo unit just sucks. If it's rented, they should swap with a different one. Personally I like to buy my own and make sure they stop charging you the rental fees. Works out a lot cheaper in the long run.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4441 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:53 pm to
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Is it just one device, a modem + wifi router combo?


One device. Simply the Arris router.

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Is there a bathroom right next to the room with the router?


There’s one across the hall from where it is. But it’s not in between the router and the living room for instance. Our master bathroom technically could be considered in between though. Not sure if that makes a difference at all?

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Tile and mirrors tend to block wifi almost completely. Or are the interior walls masonry?


No interior masonry walls except a back sunroom which isn’t anywhere near the places we’re having issues.

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But my bet is the modem/router/wifi combo unit just sucks. If it's rented, they should swap with a different one. Personally I like to buy my own and make sure they stop charging you the rental fees. Works out a lot cheaper in the long run.


Any you recommend? Thinking something not too terribly expensive but that gets the job done.

I believe the WiFi speed is much slower in other rooms than in the room with the router. Figure just run a WiFi speed test in both rooms test that?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:21 pm to
get a separate router and modem. give the combo back to the company. those combos are absolute garbage. Don't get the cheapest but you also don't have to get anything expensive. i've been where you are and finally followed this advice from other posters.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:31 pm to
I would check signal strength (there are apps that give more precise measures than just the little icon) and speed all around the house. There is not always a direct correlation between signal strength and speed, but there usually is. So it really depends on how deep you want to get into all this. If it was me, I would sketch out the floor plan and mark where the router is and label signal strength and speed in different rooms. Maybe you can check a few spots in each room to find dead spots. Then you can see if your bathrooms have any effect, or if maybe there is another feature in the house that affects the signal. Your house isn't that old, but it still could have been built with materials that interfere with wifi (foiled insulation, lots of lead based paint, etc).

Wifi is finicky... it's easy to block and easy to interfere with. Making a map will give you a ton of information that you can use to improve your signal. Mesh wifi systems (like Google/Nest wifi) are popular these days, and many people seem happy with them. You should be able to place the main unit and maybe another "puck" or two and drastically improve your coverage.


Just a few things to keep in mind:

There are 3 main components - modem, router, and wifi access point. Evidently you have a combo unit that serves all three functions, and I have never heard of anyone happy with one of those units. The only benefit is space savings, but they usually don't do anything well. Most routers also do wifi, and this is the case with the google wifi mesh, it is a router and wifi access points. In other words, you still need a modem. You can keep your existing Arris unit and just use it as a modem, or you can contact your ISP and see if they offer another type of modem. Personally, as I mentioned earlier, I like to buy my own, and most ISPs allow you to do that. It will be cheaper as long as you make sure they stop charging the rental fee.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:56 pm to
I just looked up the MaxxSouth Rate Card and it looks like they're charging you $10/month for that modem. Also since you're paying $100/month for the service, that means you have gigabit which you are obviously not able to take advantage of currently. If you think you really need gigabit, you can keep it, but honestly I think you can step down to the 250mbit for $80 and you will never have a problem. I only have 50mbit service and we regularly stream on multiple TVs and other devices at once (an HD stream typically needs only 5mbit, and a 4k stream needs about 25mbit). With 250mbit service you can stream 4K content on 10 TVs at the same time. Gigabit is only necessary for a very small segment of people.

So with the $30/month you can save, here is what I would do. Get a quality gigabit-capable modem (in case you want to upgrade in the future) such as this Motorola or this Arris for about $160. Then get the Nest Wifi + Point for $269.

You will be spending ~$450 up front, so with your $30/month savings you will break even in 15 months and then enjoy saving $360 every year for maybe 4 or 5 years. And your wifi speed will be excellent all over your house and out in the yard.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15137 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 6:08 am to
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Wifi is finicky... it's easy to block and easy to interfere with. Making a map will give you a ton of information that you can use to improve your signal. Mesh wifi systems (like Google/Nest wifi) are popular these days, and many people seem happy with them. You should be able to place the main unit and maybe another "puck" or two and drastically improve your coverage.

Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19006 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 8:05 am to
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unless you’re on Ethernet it runs fairly slow on WiFi

What speeds are you paying for?
What are the speeds when on Ethernet?
What are the speeds on WiFI?
How many splits/connections do you have between the point the cable enters the house until it makes it to the modem? If you have splitters, extenders, is there a way you can run a completely new line?

Have you tried doing a hard reset on your modem? Unplug everything, including cable in, give it a few minutes and plug everything back in. If this does not solve the issue, then do it again but this time disconnect the cable line into the house (if you know where it is)

Like others were saying, to check your speeds around the house you can walk around with your phone and the app WiFi SweetSpots. This should show you where your strong/weak spots are.
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