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what is a good wifi extender?

Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:27 am
due to the amount of plug in items I need for the media center, I have my router by the living room TV, which makes getting reception upstairs especially in the master bedroom, spotty.

What is a good extender that I can get that will amplify the signal?

The router is a netgear wireless N router but about 1.5 years old.

Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:43 am to
Any cheap linksys router that you can flash with DD-WRT.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:55 am to
asus router

This will work for what you want. I've never used it but have usually read good things about Asus routers.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:00 pm to
I went a head and pulled the trigger on a new Asus (RT-AC56U). So I will use that as the primary.
Then the hardwired connection I have to the Desktop upstairs I will plug the old router into, and use it as an extender. Then with this old linksys router I have I will try and make that also and extender by using this ethernet over voltage adapter I got.
I wonder if the signal will go all the way to the garage? I would love to have a better signal in the far back of the detached garage.
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:22 pm to
A good friend of mine is able to pick up wireless from a nearby business but the signal strength is really low. He knows the owner and has the SSID passcode. Is it possible to buy an access point for his place and connect it to the neighboring network so that he can connect in his home?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:39 pm to
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Then the hardwired connection I have to the Desktop upstairs I will plug the old router into, and use it as an extender. Then with this old linksys router I have I will try and make that also and extender by using this ethernet over voltage adapter I got.
If they are hardwired to your new router, set them as Access Points, not extenders. Extenders will cut your bandwidth in half, but don't require a hardwire. APs will get your full bandwidth but requires a hardwire. Put one on channel 1, another on channel 6 and the other on channel 11.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

A good friend of mine is able to pick up wireless from a nearby business but the signal strength is really low. He knows the owner and has the SSID passcode. Is it possible to buy an access point for his place and connect it to the neighboring network so that he can connect in his home?
An access point requires a hardwired connection the the origin network.

And in this case an extender in his own home probably won't help, because you want an extender close to the 50% signal range.

A note of interest, everyone knows that the further you get from a wireless network, the lower the signal strength, but what many don't know is that it lowers the bandwidth too. Let's say a wireless network is pushing out 300Mbps, the closer you are the more bandwidth you'll get, the further away, the less. So 100ft away you might be getting a low signal and can connect, but the speed might be 1Mbps.

I think IlikeLSUtoo has a write-up on a bi-quad dish antennae he built. Do a search. That could allow your friend to increase the signal strength he's getting.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:29 pm to
how hard is it to set the devices as access points?

plug and play or a lot of configuring?
an issue I have is that the router had a password put in its configurations and I can't remember it.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

how hard is it to set the devices as access points?
If you're going to set a router as an extender then it is no different than setting a router as a access point. If you're using DD-WRT on the older routers, it's very simple to set the mode.

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an issue I have is that the router had a password put in its configurations and I can't remember it.
Google the router model for resetting to defaults. Reset to factory defaults then use the original login.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:38 pm to
What that guy said
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 11:42 am to
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Google the router model for resetting to defaults. Reset to factory defaults then use the original login.


Thanks.

Found all I had to do was either connect via Ethernet connection or hit the reset button then use the default login info.

New router comes in Monday.

I hope this helps the problem. Then I think I will do this satellite dish to wi-fi antennae hack I saw on here. Then hook that to another wireless router and have that be the slow access point only used for the garage computer.
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:54 am to
thanks for the info. I was possibly thinking of using a Windows laptop and turning on ICS. I haven't looked at ICS in years but I am assuming it will work.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:14 pm to
Go for 2 Ubiquiti Unifi access points. They're $70 a piece and can uplink with one another wirelessly. You'll have 2 full access points for devices on each floor, without worrying about all the issues that you usually see with extenders.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:19 pm to
i'm a complete idiot on repeaters..but conceptually is there an app or way you could turn "repeaters" on for every device on your network?

in other words; i got ipads and phones and PCs and shite all around my house using one router way downstairs.

is there a product that..say..could run as a background process on each of these devices to help boost/repeat the signal around the house?

i know..probably stupid question..but does something like that exist?


seems like a way to take advantage of your existing PC computing power rather than buy dedicated hardware doo-dads.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

i'm a complete idiot on repeaters..but conceptually is there an app or way you could turn "repeaters" on for every device on your network?

in other words; i got ipads and phones and PCs and shite all around my house using one router way downstairs.

is there a product that..say..could run as a background process on each of these devices to help boost/repeat the signal around the house?

i know..probably stupid question..but does something like that exist?


seems like a way to take advantage of your existing PC computing power rather than buy dedicated hardware doo-dads.


You could do it on a PC if you had 2 wiFi cards in it, and a distribution of linux with hostapd. One of the cards has to be capable of broadcast mode.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

You could do it on a PC if you had 2 wiFi cards in it, and a distribution of linux with hostapd. One of the cards has to be capable of broadcast mode.


ok i'm out. that sounds like alot of extra hardware required so a dedicated repeater is probably the way to go.
Posted by Casty McBoozer
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:45 pm to
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good wifi extender?

There is no such thing. Extenders are just bad ideas.
Posted by jdd48
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

There is no such thing. Extenders are just bad ideas.


Generally yes - I've never seen one that's truly worked as it should. If I had a 2 story home, I'd do it with the unifi access points. You end up with one wireless network SSID and full enterprise level AP's to provide wifi to each floor.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Go for 2 Ubiquiti Unifi access points. They're $60 a piece and can uplink with one another wirelessly. You'll have 2 full access points for devices on each floor, without worrying about all the issues that you usually see with extenders.
Can you provide some specific model numbers, I'd like to check them out.
Posted by jdd48
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:10 pm to
I usually get mine at DoubleRadius.

LINK

This is the standard range version for $69.


LINK

This is the long range version for $89.


Both units work very well and come with a mounting bracket.
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