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Upgrading standard AT&T modem/router

Posted on 9/12/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 2:51 pm
Is there something better I can get as far as modem, router, or both to improve my signal, speed, and expand the cat5 inputs into the modem? Im running out of inputs for hard wired TVs and audio systems

I have ATT fiber

This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:04 pm to
Adding more ports is as simple as adding a switch.

There are lots of options for better wifi, and many opinions about it too. You will probably want a mesh system, unless you like pulling cable (which it seems you might?) then I'd recommend ceiling mounted access points.

I'm working on a comprehensive home networking thread, hope to have it posted this week.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:41 pm to
One thing I learned this weekend was that most TV's ethernet ports max out at 100 MBPS. Luckily, I think you can get an ethernet-USB adapter, but your TV needs a USB 3.0 port for the speed.

So, unless you can go the adapter route you may be better off going wireless on your TVs.

this one is supposed to work with the latest Sony and LG models
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

I'm working on a comprehensive home networking thread, hope to have it posted this week.


Looking forward to that

Is the “switch” basically a splitter? I didn’t know if I could split the signal going into a router without degrading it.

I should have been more specific. Most of my TVs are already wired in but I’m going to be adding in an audio system and need a few more ports.

I don’t care about running wires so being wireless isn’t a requirement.

I was basically wondering if I’m missing out on having better wifi by just using the modem that ATT supplies
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:14 pm to
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I was basically wondering if I’m missing out on having better wifi by just using the modem that ATT supplies


No
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Is the “switch” basically a splitter?
Kinda but not really.
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I didn’t know if I could split the signal going into a router without degrading it.
No, you don't "split" it before the router. A switch would plug into one of the ports on your router, and then it would provide more ports for other devices, so in that way it "splits" one of your available ports. It's an important distinction though that you can't just split an ethernet connection, it has to be switched/routed.
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I was basically wondering if I’m missing out on having better wifi by just using the modem that ATT supplies
Maybe. But if you don't really have any trouble with your wifi as is and you just need more wired ports, then I'd just get a switch. You can add 8 ports for more wired devices for probably $50.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:09 pm to
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You can add 8 ports for more wired devices for probably $50.


And can all those ports be on simultaneously or can I only select a few at a time?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:33 pm to
All simultaneously. You can get a 16, 24, or 48 port switch if you like, and you can "daisy-chain" them if you have/want to.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:28 pm to
Hopefully I can get an answer but I had this question this week.

I do not think you can get rid of the BGW-210 gateway but you can do a pass-through for a better router.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1551 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:39 pm to
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One thing I learned this weekend was that most TV's ethernet ports max out at 100 MBPS.


There's a reason for that. It only takes 25 Mbps for a 4k stream let alone 720p/1080p.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18836 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:44 pm to
My setup might be more complex then you want to go, but you can easily scale it back a ton to still have something with great flexibility and ease of use.

BW320 ONT (passthrough) > Opnsense server (you can place basically any router you want here instead) > 8x 10gbe with 24x 1gb POE (insert any other switch that will suit your needs here) > Engenius Neutron access point for wifi
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1551 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:28 pm to
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I do not think you can get rid of the BGW-210 gateway but you can do a pass-through for a better router.



There are actually a couple methods to do this, but not easy and always foolproof. Also apparently ATT has made changes in some areas that stops this.

https://jimangel.io/posts/bypassing-att-fiber-gateway-on-udmp/


Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
829 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:18 am to
I went with the Netgear Orbi mesh system and saw a big improvement in speed and stability. I have the Pace 5268AC modem, and it was kind of a pain to put it into a pseudo bridge mode. It doesn't have a true bridge or passthrough mode, so it was way more complicated than it had to be.

Once that was setup, it has worked great. I get probably twice the transfer speeds on my wireless devices and don't get the sporadic disconnects.
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