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The expensive Hue bulbs vs the SYLVANIA bulbs. UPDATE.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:06 am
Hue bulbs are normally 50 bucks and rarely you can get them for 40 bucks. You need their hue hub to control them.
Anyone use these, besides django?
On salt for 20 bucks.
BR30
UPDATE:
Well the Sylvania bulbs "work" but it takes a work around. The above link's description is Sylvania but the photo is Osram. Which is the same company now.
Well the OSRAM brand connect correctly and can be controlled off the bat. The Sylvania bulbs get recognized but when saved, you get "Missing tiles" you have to go into your IDE and edit the device. It doesnt know what the device is, so you have to choose "Zigbee RBGW Bulb".
Then it is controllable.
Anyone use these, besides django?
On salt for 20 bucks.
BR30
UPDATE:
Well the Sylvania bulbs "work" but it takes a work around. The above link's description is Sylvania but the photo is Osram. Which is the same company now.
Well the OSRAM brand connect correctly and can be controlled off the bat. The Sylvania bulbs get recognized but when saved, you get "Missing tiles" you have to go into your IDE and edit the device. It doesnt know what the device is, so you have to choose "Zigbee RBGW Bulb".
Then it is controllable.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 8:51 am
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:54 am to CarRamrod
No, but my current plan is to go with their light strips instead of Hue. Full control with Wink and almost half the cost for my needs.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:19 pm to CarRamrod
I use them because they will pair directly to smartthings without an additional hub.
They work great, but I’ve turned down the brightness bc they run hot at 100%. Cool to the touch at 50%.
They work great, but I’ve turned down the brightness bc they run hot at 100%. Cool to the touch at 50%.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to CarRamrod
i'm curious. how do the colors compare with hue?
i have one lightify 'tunable white' bulb now with wink and it loses connection all the time so its left a bad taste in my mouth.
i have one lightify 'tunable white' bulb now with wink and it loses connection all the time so its left a bad taste in my mouth.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:56 pm to CAD703X
i have 2 different single recessed light i dont ever use cause the switch is on the other side of the room i never go to, some i ordered 2 of these at 20 bucks. ill see how that work. They will probably work a little better on Smartthings than Wink. Simply because i have STs now.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:16 pm to CAD703X
Found this review last weekend.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:16 pm to CAD703X
Lightify has better colors(not sure how compared to gen 3 hue), but Hue has a lot better integrations with apps to make cool things happen.
Your lightify is undoubtedly loosing connection because of the crappy zigbee with those Tapts you have
Your lightify is undoubtedly loosing connection because of the crappy zigbee with those Tapts you have
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:22 pm to mctiger1985
both tapts are offline AGAIN. 
Eta they are controlling 2 sets of BR30s (4 total) on my front 2 porches and now I'm wondering if I should put a dumb switch and color hues in them or use 2 ge dimmers and regular bulbs.
Eta and we almost installed 4 gas lanterns last year where they are so given the whims of my SO I could be wasting time installing dimmer switches.
Maybe a good use case for those $20 BR30s in this thread?
Eta frick it. I just bought 4
I'm going to replace those switches with $2 switches.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:41 pm to CarRamrod
can’t use the BR30 osram lights on Dimmer switches
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:50 pm to CarRamrod
So I'm just now realizing that I bought a smartthings hub to do what it seems like I need a hue hub for. So as I understand it now is I need the hue hub to control the bulbs but I need the smartthings to write this all into flows and routines?
And IFTTT?
And Stringify?
And Alexa?
Apparently I have a lot to learn.
And IFTTT?
And Stringify?
And Alexa?
Apparently I have a lot to learn.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:08 am to VanRIch
It's not so bad.
1. Yes even though zigbee was touted as an open system in reality it seems like everyone is doing their own thing. Hue requires a hub but imo it's worth it because of so the 3rd party development. You're ST hub is a brain for virtually everything else so don't get rid of it. Sooner or later you will want to buy a smart doodad and if you have the ST hub already you likely won't have to worry you can't control it.
2. IFTTT is free website that lets you tie all kinds of shite together. If you want Twitter to automatically post something when LSU is playing on TV and Instagram to post a screengrab of your living room from your webcam and turn your lights purple and gold you can do it. It allows you to connect all the web shite and smart doodads like Legos. Oodles of fun.
3. Stringify - someone else will have to weigh in. I haven't used this yet.
4. Alexa is a no brainier. Plug a dot in and log into your hue account and then you can tell your lights to dim, change colors, blink and all kinds of random stuff. I have an IFTTT recipes that blinks all my lights all over the house 3x when any timer is done in case I'm not in the same room as the dot or I'm playing music loud and don't hear it.
1. Yes even though zigbee was touted as an open system in reality it seems like everyone is doing their own thing. Hue requires a hub but imo it's worth it because of so the 3rd party development. You're ST hub is a brain for virtually everything else so don't get rid of it. Sooner or later you will want to buy a smart doodad and if you have the ST hub already you likely won't have to worry you can't control it.
2. IFTTT is free website that lets you tie all kinds of shite together. If you want Twitter to automatically post something when LSU is playing on TV and Instagram to post a screengrab of your living room from your webcam and turn your lights purple and gold you can do it. It allows you to connect all the web shite and smart doodads like Legos. Oodles of fun.
3. Stringify - someone else will have to weigh in. I haven't used this yet.
4. Alexa is a no brainier. Plug a dot in and log into your hue account and then you can tell your lights to dim, change colors, blink and all kinds of random stuff. I have an IFTTT recipes that blinks all my lights all over the house 3x when any timer is done in case I'm not in the same room as the dot or I'm playing music loud and don't hear it.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:50 am to CAD703X
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3. Stringify - someone else will have to weigh in. I haven't used this yet.
It’s like IFTTT on steroids.
You can make a flow with if, only if, and, or, while, else, etc. You can also pass functions, strings, and perform math calculations between objects.
Edit: I started using it a while back bc I had trouble with IFTTT triggering events based on other events (ie. sunset -1hr). I was able to set my outdoor lighting with one flow rather than multiple IFTTTs. It was more reliable. I can also run a weather report at the time of my choosing, pass keywords (cloudy, rain) to devices and have them perform actions based on that.
I’m sure IFTTT is also cable of these things but I never bothered bc it was super easy with Stringify to make a flow.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:05 am to Engineer
So if I use Stringify I don't need to use IFTTT?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:23 am to VanRIch
Depends on what you’re doing. I no longer use IFTTT and just use Stringify and ST for all my devices.
IFTTT is really good for simple tasks, but I found myself wanting to do if this then that and also that but only when this. Stringify is better for that, IMO.
IFTTT is really good for simple tasks, but I found myself wanting to do if this then that and also that but only when this. Stringify is better for that, IMO.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:21 am to Engineer
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IFTTT is really good for simple tasks, but I found myself wanting to do if this then that and also that but only when this. Stringify is better for that, IMO.
Bingo. I use IFTTT to do single commands and Stringify for scripts. You can do multiple things on one trigger in IFTTT by making multiple single actions that all fire on the same trigger, but that's a PITA. If I need to do multiple things off of an IFTTT trigger, I'll usually just use IFTTT to handle watching for the trigger and then fire a Stringify script that actually performs the actions I want.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Why not use Stringify for everything, including the simple things?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:33 pm to VanRIch
Convenience, really.
If you want to email a weather report, IFTTT is as simple as activating the widget.
And while you can find, share, and enable another user’s flow in Stringify, building it from scratch would be a little more involved.
I prefer that because I can choose when the weather report is run and when it is sent.
The last time I had a daily weather check on IFTTT, it came at 7:39 am. Sorta random and I haven’t bothered to see if I can change it. It might just be when wunderground updates their forecast. I think for most HA users it won’t matter. Advanced users will want more options.
If you want to email a weather report, IFTTT is as simple as activating the widget.
And while you can find, share, and enable another user’s flow in Stringify, building it from scratch would be a little more involved.
I prefer that because I can choose when the weather report is run and when it is sent.
The last time I had a daily weather check on IFTTT, it came at 7:39 am. Sorta random and I haven’t bothered to see if I can change it. It might just be when wunderground updates their forecast. I think for most HA users it won’t matter. Advanced users will want more options.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:37 pm to VanRIch
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Why not use Stringify for everything, including the simple things?
Personal preference, really. I just find IFTTT easier to use if I need a simple trigger and response than setting up a flow to do the same thing in Stringify.
Also, while IFTTT and Stringify cover much of the same ground in terms of available triggers and responses to those triggers, they each have certain triggers and responses that the other doesn't. Even when they both can trigger or respond to a given device, they can differ slightly to significantly in what they're capable of doing with that device, so I keep them both around for flexibility.
For instance, the only thing I can do in Stringify using Alexa as a trigger is to have Stringify run a flow when Alexa requests that flow to run. This is fine if I just want to say something like "Alexa, Gametime" and have my living room automatically set itself up to watch an LSU game. However, if I want it to blink the lights in the house when my Alexa timer goes off in case I'm not near the Echo and can't hear it, Stringify can't do it. IFTTT, however, has about ten different events happening on Alexa that it can respond to, one of which is Alexa's timer going off.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:45 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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I cannot tell Stringify to blink my lights when Alexa's timer goes off; I can only tell Stringify to blink the lights when Alexa requests it
i think that was a total of 2 clicks in IFTTT
yes CAD is lazy. sue me.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:51 pm to CAD703X
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i think that was a total of 2 clicks in IFTTT
Yep. IFTTT and Stringify are slightly different, but complementary, tools with slightly different uses and strengths.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 2:56 pm
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