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so NBC Sports offered "free" pre-game and superbowl on fireTV

Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:03 am
oh it was GLORIOUS.

had the TV on from about noon on running superbowl pre-game stuff and while i was working around the house the quality was FANTASTIC.

then the superbowl started.

when i say it dropped to shitty quality it dropped to S-H-I-T-T-Y quality. worse than 360p. it would occasionally jump to HD for a few seconds then back to shite quality. exiting and even rebooting the fireTV box didn't help.

this is on a 1/gb ethernet line.

ITS NOT LIKE frickING NBC OWNS COMCAST. ITS NOT LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELIVER STREAMING HD.

frick NBC

they did this on purpose. don't give me the "they were caught by surprise" because THEY frickING OWN COMCAST. i think they know how to deliver HD.

they suckered me in all day long with HD pre-game and commercials then when the game came on, it all went to hell.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:08 am to
used the app last night no problems.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:09 am to
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used the app last night no problems.


what device?

and what ISP?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:11 am to
fire tv.

My city has its own fiber network.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:39 am to
It worked fine for me on Fire TV and on iPad as well.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:46 am to
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fire tv.

My city has its own fiber network.


i think this pretty well confirms my suspicions about comcast.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:54 am to
Yeah, I had no problem with using the NBC Sports app on Fire TV.

Remember when Cox/Comcast were shaking down NetFlix before the Net Neutrality rules became law a few years ago? Technically the problem was that Cox/Comcast refused to upgrade their connection with Level 3, the ISP NetFlix was using, to handle the peak traffic loads it's customers were demanding.

Maybe the problem is your ISP? I'm not saying they're shaking down NBC, but this was a one time event, so maybe they weren't expecting the kind of peak load they got between them and Comcast or whoever streams NBC Sports? I'm assuming your ISP isn't Comcast. If it is that's just even more terrible than you expect with already lowered expectations.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:04 am to
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I'm assuming your ISP isn't Comcast. If it is that's just even more terrible than you expect with already lowered expectations.


oh no, its comcast and i get 120mbit down/12 up and speedtest was confirming everything 'appeared' to be working fine.

hard to say its my fault when speedtest was showing no issue and the tv was etherneted directly into the router.

i will point out i've never had a problem with 4K netflix ever. in fact netflix quality is often TOO GOOD because i burn through my 1TB cap too fast eveyr month.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71198 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:38 am to
I watched multiple YouTube streams to find out I could've went on their website. Caught the last 5 mins on NBC sports .com
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:44 am to
Watched NBC on Directv Now without issue
Posted by corndawg85
MS
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:46 am to
Don't understand why, if the game is being broadcast on a local channel, just find an antenna and point it in the direction of the towers. Boom! Free HD quality TV with no internet involved.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 11:47 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:54 am to
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i will point out i've never had a problem with 4K netflix ever. in fact netflix quality is often TOO GOOD because i burn through my 1TB cap too fast eveyr month.


I just ran a traceroute on nbcsports.com and it looks like that points to Amazon servers. I would assume the NBC Sports App also uses Amazon. So that gets back to suggesting that the problem might be like NetFlix/Cox/Comcast and the connection between AWS and Comcast isn't big enough to handle SuperBowl level traffic. I also want to say I remember part of the solution in the NetFlix shakedown was NetFlix paying for colocation of cached/streaming servers in the Cox/Comcast data centers. I don't know if that kind of caching solution is as helpful for a live event.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Don't understand why, if the game is being broadcast on a local channel, just find an antenna and point it in the direction of the towers. Boom! Free HD quality TV with no internet involved.


you dont understand the geography involved with hills and nashville tv OTA signals.

if i could do OTA i would have.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12858 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:18 pm to
I watched on YouTube TV all night and had 0 issues. I checked twitter a lot and saw that people with Hulu Live TV having issues.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:47 pm to
NBC Sports app worked great on my Apple TV. Well, the halftime show and the last 10 minutes of the game did at least. That's all we watched.

The UI is garbage though.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:52 pm to
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if i could do OTA i would have.
Let me guess... you're one of those guys who tries an attic antenna instead of installing a rooftop antenna 12 feet above the roofline. Amiright?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29126 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
hulu live tv is the suck. i intended to go with it during football season but it was so awful i had to crawl back to directv now.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12858 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:07 pm to
I liked it but I found it was a solid 30-60 seconds behind live tv feeds. YouTube TV is about 5-15 seconds behind live tv. This makes a HUGE difference when it comes to live sports, for me, at least.

Also, YouTube TVs menu is clean and crisp. At times Hulu Live TV has too many tab columns and becomes annoying.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:37 pm to
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hulu live tv is the suck.


That's disappointing to hear. With the content monopoly Disney has I figure Hulu Live TV might be the most compelling streamer in another year or 2.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I don't know if that kind of caching solution is as helpful for a live event.
It should be helpful. Instead of 10s of thousands of the same content entering the ISP network, it could just traverse that pipe once then get redistributed to subscribers. Of course, the content owner and each ISP would have to set this up ahead of time, and I'm not sure it's worth it for what would probably be just a once a year heavy traffic event.
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