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re: Permanently installed LED "Christmas" lights.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:14 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:14 am to CarRamrod
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I'm referring to a single rgdw bulb. Idk if WLED can be flashed and work with a single bulb can it?
I just found a reddit post showing how to do it. You have to install a custom WLED bun file. Doesn't look too difficult. I have an extra bulb I might try it on.
Hey, did you get this working? What custom bin did you have to compile? I realized I need to do something similar to add my RGBW spotlights to my show.
I think we need to start a holiday light tech thread...
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:01 am to CarRamrod
About 1 week into the holidays and the outside lights are working well. I have them turn on at sunset every night via an Alexa routine (although I could easily do the same with the macro settings in the WLED firmware).
I have a set of animations going that I and, more importantly, the wife like. The kid was able to help me design some of them using his tablet.
I'll say this about the WLED Alexa integration. It's been hit or miss over the last week. There are 2 or 3 NODEMCUs that I have that Alexa couldn't find. However doing some research on the subject, I think the issue is on Amazon's end, not WLED's end. If you are banking on that connection, order a few extra NodeMCU's just to make sure you get one that connects. In order to make discovery work, I had to reboot most of the Echo Dots in the house and then run discovery ASAP.
Also, I ended up giving most of mine a static Ip address and turning off sleep mode as the Alexa app as "losing them" and showing them as unresponsive even tho they were still visible in the WLED app. Again, I think it's an issue with the alexa protocol and not the WLED software (Hue users were reporting the same issues and WLED emulates a hue bulb).
I have a set of animations going that I and, more importantly, the wife like. The kid was able to help me design some of them using his tablet.
I'll say this about the WLED Alexa integration. It's been hit or miss over the last week. There are 2 or 3 NODEMCUs that I have that Alexa couldn't find. However doing some research on the subject, I think the issue is on Amazon's end, not WLED's end. If you are banking on that connection, order a few extra NodeMCU's just to make sure you get one that connects. In order to make discovery work, I had to reboot most of the Echo Dots in the house and then run discovery ASAP.
Also, I ended up giving most of mine a static Ip address and turning off sleep mode as the Alexa app as "losing them" and showing them as unresponsive even tho they were still visible in the WLED app. Again, I think it's an issue with the alexa protocol and not the WLED software (Hue users were reporting the same issues and WLED emulates a hue bulb).
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 11:11 am
Posted on 12/4/20 at 1:48 pm to Lonnie Utah
have you thought about putting ESPixelstick firmware on esps and run xlights? thats what im going to do.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 2:44 pm to CarRamrod
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have you thought about putting ESPixelstick firmware on esps and run xlights? thats what im going to do.
NOt this year. I just don't have enough lights right now.
Maybe next year if I go crazy.

Posted on 12/4/20 at 2:57 pm to Lonnie Utah
you dont have to have a bunch of lights for it. you can still some some animations with the strips you have just like you are doing with wled.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 12:28 pm to CarRamrod
So this thread got me started down this path for my house. It took awhile to get everything assembled, especially with the height of my house, but I finally finished. I haven't really had a chance to adjust segments in WLED and I need to figure out the best animations, but overall I'm happy with the end result.



Posted on 12/8/20 at 12:58 pm to RC
Very nice house and lights!
Give us some details. What controller are you using? What and how many strips did you use? How are they mounted?
Give us some details. What controller are you using? What and how many strips did you use? How are they mounted?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 12:59 pm to RC
Excellent.
Nice work on the curve on the entrance foyer.

Nice work on the curve on the entrance foyer.

This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/8/20 at 1:39 pm to guedeaux
I used the Diguno to control them. I ended up just ordering the parts and built 9 (had enough for 10 but messed up the first one!). I was able to control everything with just one, but ended using two because it worked out better having a separate controller for the main part of the house and one for the right side.
I used the ws2815 strips because I had some really long runs and was worried about voltage drop. That ended up being around 10 total 5 meter strips. I used the 30 led/meter strips which was plenty for this application.
For mounting I used the aluminum channels everywhere except the arch at top. For that used 3/4 inch thin wall pvc.
It all would have been so much easier if I had a single story house. Moving the 32 ft ladder around all of my landscaping was a huge pain. I put up the channel first, then prepared the strips to length on the ground because I had no desire to try and solder those wires up in the air.
I used the ws2815 strips because I had some really long runs and was worried about voltage drop. That ended up being around 10 total 5 meter strips. I used the 30 led/meter strips which was plenty for this application.
For mounting I used the aluminum channels everywhere except the arch at top. For that used 3/4 inch thin wall pvc.
It all would have been so much easier if I had a single story house. Moving the 32 ft ladder around all of my landscaping was a huge pain. I put up the channel first, then prepared the strips to length on the ground because I had no desire to try and solder those wires up in the air.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 8:13 am to Lonnie Utah
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But these aluminum channel covers, UGGGGG!
Update FWIW, a gentle rap with a rubber mallet works wonders when the fidgety plastic covers don't want to go into the aluminum channels. It might have been easier in warm weather when both were more pliable.

And FYI, there is a new WLED build out there. 0.11.0
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 8:17 am
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:25 pm to Lonnie Utah
So I'm late to the game with all this, and I almost put it off until next year because there seemed to be an LED shortage for a couple weeks there. But I bit the bullet and ordered all the stuff last week. The channel came in earlier today, so I went ahead and put it on. Starting small, just 40' across the front of the house, only took about an hour.
My wire came in after dark, so I just spent a while building out my controller. I already had a spare nodemcu, so I'm using that instead of a dig-uno. I've got the nodemcu output hooked directly to the data wire with no level shifter, and it works fine over a few feet of wire, but I'm worried about when I install it and try to use ~30' of 18 gauge. I've never made one before, but I have all the parts to make a level shifter, and they look pretty simple so I guess I can do that if I have trouble.
My wire came in after dark, so I just spent a while building out my controller. I already had a spare nodemcu, so I'm using that instead of a dig-uno. I've got the nodemcu output hooked directly to the data wire with no level shifter, and it works fine over a few feet of wire, but I'm worried about when I install it and try to use ~30' of 18 gauge. I've never made one before, but I have all the parts to make a level shifter, and they look pretty simple so I guess I can do that if I have trouble.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 4:54 am to Korkstand
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But I have all the parts to make a level shifter, and they look pretty simple so I guess I can do that if I have trouble.
I have a couple of spare ones. I could drop one in the mail to you if you'd like. Alternatively, you could use a sacrificial pixel on your prototype board and just run your data wire off of that. WLED has a spot where you can have it "Skip the first pixel" for just this situation.
FWIW, for my outdoor lights, used a nodeMCU and added a logic level shifter to the board. I also went to the local auto parts store and got a fuse block and added a couple of 10 amp fuses on my prototype board. IMHO the fuses are the biggest advantage of the DigQuads and DigUno's. I'm running 60 Amps at 5v dc through my system and while it's not that much compared to mains voltage it's still enough to make me nervous about failures.
And I've tired to get a quick video of my lights the past couple of nights, but the rest of my Christmas lights make the video exposure go funky...

Good luck!
L
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 5:08 am
Posted on 12/10/20 at 5:40 am to RC
Hey RC,
I had a question for you. How's you wire everything? Personally, I did 1 big run from the south side of my house to the north, I only used 1 data wire. I have just under 1,000 LED in the system. The entire pixel run is about 33 meters.
Did you do 1 big run or break them up into segments have have the 9 diguno's run each section? As I said, just curious. Was trying to figure how your wired everything.
I had a question for you. How's you wire everything? Personally, I did 1 big run from the south side of my house to the north, I only used 1 data wire. I have just under 1,000 LED in the system. The entire pixel run is about 33 meters.
Did you do 1 big run or break them up into segments have have the 9 diguno's run each section? As I said, just curious. Was trying to figure how your wired everything.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:22 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:Thanks for the offer, but I'm good!
I have a couple of spare ones. I could drop one in the mail to you if you'd like.
So I ended up using *much* more wire than I was anticipating, about 80' of 18 gauge from my controller to the first LED, and it works! I only have 1 string of LEDs on it so far, but it's looking promising.
I even made a shitty temporary connection with butt connectors at the strip for testing, thinking there was no way it would work, but shockingly it does.
Now it'll probably take just as long to solder and clean up everything as it did to mount the hardware and pull all the wire.

Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:23 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:
Hey RC,
I had a question for you. How's you wire everything? Personally, I did 1 big run from the south side of my house to the north, I only used 1 data wire. I have just under 1,000 LED in the system. The entire pixel run is about 33 meters.
Did you do 1 big run or break them up into segments have have the 9 diguno's run each section? As I said, just curious. Was trying to figure how your wired everything.
I started with one long run but ended up using 2 digunos. My line starts at the tower on the right and goes left, but because of where I place the power supply and controller, I had to run the wires about 60-70 feet. It still worked fine, but I found that if I crank up the power then everything started to glitch.
I did a second power supply to inject power to the part that is around the main part of the house, so I ended up just adding the second diguno to control that part. It's a much shorter intial wire run and I can crank the brightness to full without any issue there. Other than the brightness issue, I also noticed that the animations seemed to lag a little when I had 1 controller for all 1200 or so LEDs.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:20 pm to RC
quote:Can I ask what the hell you do for a living?
RC

Posted on 12/11/20 at 7:10 am to Korkstand
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So I ended up using *much* more wire than I was anticipating, about 80' of 18 gauge from my controller to the first LED, and it works!

I have about 60' of 18 awg from the controller to the first pixel with no problems. I am using a logic level shifter though. I could have save myself a ton a trouble on the install though if I would have known about the "reverse segment" toggle in the WLED software. As I said above, I started on the south side of my house and ran 3 conductor 18 awg out of the garage, into the attic, out through the soffits and up and over the top of the garage peak. I could have set up two segments and made 1 data connection to each and saved about 40-50' of wire. It was a pain getting the 18 AWG to fit in the channels. I ended up having to hot glue it on top of the LED strips in a lot of spots. IF I would have spilt into two sections. I then could have used 2 stand wire for power injection only and saved a lot of install hassle. Of course I could have just run the wire through the attic to the south side soffit. But I wanted to be able to pull everything down in one shot if I needed too.
FWIW I have 992 LEDS online (33 M).
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 7:12 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 8:38 am to Lonnie Utah
I only put up 40' of lights, I didn't want to invest too much time and money if the WAF wouldn't be there. So I got it fired up last night and the first thing she says is "yeah we gotta finish the rest of the house". 

Posted on 12/14/20 at 9:19 am to Korkstand
This wont really help connecting strip to strip, but for wire runs, these look to be really useful.
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