New construction - wifi switches.

Lutron Caseta and just be done with it. Enjoy the rock solid stability

I've got a couple Caseta's set up with a dummy switch/pico remote set up.

Literally doesn't matter whatsoever compared to having a normal switch.

I'm a total idiot noob with no electrical experience and I figured it out with some youtube videos and voltage checker to make sure I didn't die.

There's another thread from last week with this. Caseta is your answer. It looks pricey but they are very easy to install and I have never had 1 issue and have been using them for years.

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If using a lot of 3-way switches, Caseta doesn’t currently offer 3-way switching. You can set a “dummy” hardwired “dumb” switch that won’t work on one end, or you can mount one of their wireless remotes that has about a 10-year battery life, but there is not a hardwired 3-way option with them in the Caseta lineup.

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That is unfortunate because we have several 3 way switches in important areas of the house. I don’t have a hub planned, but if I went with the Lutron switches, I could just get their hub? Or is there a better option?

I prefer the hub instead of connected countless more devices to my wifi. Why would you have the hub but no switches. I have 3 way switches and put the caseta on the most used one. You can put pico remotes in place of the other switches. I tend to use the app more to control the lights anyway so I dont miss not using the switches. If someone uses one of the other switches the lights just go to full power

The other thing I'll add to this discussion. If you have ANY thought of adding smart switches of ANY variety, make sure you electrician puts in oversized switch boxes. When you start cramming multiple smart switches into a box with 3 way wiring and other junctions, things can start to get crowded....

Thanks all. After these responses, I think I'm going to go with Caseta. I've also been watching some videos on three way options with them. Every switch isn't going to be a Caseta from jump, but I've got enough basic electrical know-how to add them down the line.

Does anybody have any experience with their fan controls? My fans are on DC motors though so I don't even know if they would work.

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Does anybody have any experience with their fan controls?

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Incompatible with DC motors.


I have their fan controls - 4 in total and considering one additional one. I have two fans on one circuit outside. I’m going to add a plain on/off switch to them eventually. I want them on or off- I won’t tune them from low/med/high. Some people have had success with two fans. Some have not. I’m not going to play the guessing game.
I did bypass an Altura 68” fan remote and use it with my fan speed control. It’s a very slow moving fan. So much so that I’ve considered buying the pull chain version of it which comes with a less attractive blade and a 60” span and swapping them (gone as far as measuring the hole pattern in the store and know it would work but wife thinks I’m moderately crazy for caring so much about how fast a fan turns, and it moves decent air)



Also, I didn’t elaborate on the three way thing- been a little busy.


Caseta has a 75 device limit which includes Pico remotes if paired in the app. You CAN pair a pico without the app (and it won’t count against your device limit) and you can make a pico control as many switches as you want (I had a nonfunctioning speaker control knob next to a hallway near my bedroom. The living room is right next to it. I have 4 lamps in the room, all on Caseta controllers. So I paired All the lamps AND all the lights, so I can turn off everything from one switch on the way to bed.


RA2 select hub can be purchased from several places for modestly more money. It had a higher device limit If 75 won’t cut it (it was 50 until maybe a year ago. Sounds like a lot. If you use Picos in the app and lamps or motion sensors, it’s very easy to get to that limit fast.
Anyway, RA2 select hubs offer a different set of switches (maestro RF I believe) wired remote in a 3-way setting- you can still have the remote control things other than the circuit it’s physically tied to. You can still use a Pico (the same as the Caseta ones!), but you get “fancier” switches and remotes, including multi-scene ones. Probably overkill in a lot of situations. Probably awesome in others. Whereas you are probably going to buy the 4-button (no center button) $50 Caseta switch, you’ll spend ~$150 for the Maestro switches. The systems are totally incompatible except for the Pico remotes, so if you’re going ground up, it’s probably better to decide now if the added functionality is worth it. For most it probably isn’t. I have an irrational hatred of batteries and can’t go too long without getting focused on stupid things that I let bother me (like a switch I have that is now “broken” because it’s a 3-way tied to a Caseta and I don’t want to put a Pico on the wall and just feel like it needs to be done the “right” way so that when someone comes back and looks in 30 years they don’t think I was a total dumbass).



In the end, in the next 2 years, I’m going to add the RA2 select hub and tie my 3-ways to it. I’m approaching the Caseta limit anyway, and I like to tinker. Both integrate with HomeKit, so my “controller” won’t know they’re separate systems, even if they take two separate apps to set up and maintain.


Lutron then offers, if I’m not mistaken, an additional “smarter” RA system that is dealer-only and then either one or two consumer dealer-only options on top of that.

Lastly, if you want a pedestal for your Pico, buy the lutron one. It’s great. And it’s like $10. If you want one for two, also buy lutron. It’s like $20. But if you want the triple, they want $80 and can frick off. Someone on Etsy 3d prints an alternative for cheap. I haven’t bought these yet but plan on it soon. So take that recommendation with a grain of salt