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Need new computer. What's minimum for video editing?
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:58 pm
Would like to convert old VHS movies to digital. Current desktop is becoming less dependable with more frequent crashes and reboots. Not into gaming, just need enough "firepower" to smoothly convert VHS to digital copies. Laptop or desktop? Which is better bang for buck? Which parameters should I consider?
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:05 pm to Ignatius Reilly
A desktop will always be better bang for the buck if you're talking strictly compute power.
If all you're doing is converting VHS to digital, I wouldn't really call that "editing". Unless you're working on the video after the fact, just capturing video from a VCR doesn't require much horsepower at all and I think a $50 Raspberry Pi can do it with resources to spare.
How many tapes do you want to convert, and how do you plan to store the digital copies?
If all you're doing is converting VHS to digital, I wouldn't really call that "editing". Unless you're working on the video after the fact, just capturing video from a VCR doesn't require much horsepower at all and I think a $50 Raspberry Pi can do it with resources to spare.
How many tapes do you want to convert, and how do you plan to store the digital copies?
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:09 pm to Ignatius Reilly
Desktop all day. You need something with a discrete graphics card, NOT integrated graphics. I'm being super lazy, but you can use this as an example: here. You see the first search result, the Lenovo AIO3?
You see the second result?
I don't buy graphics cards that cost more than about $240, so I don't think it matters if you go AMD or GeForce. Given your probable skill level, just buy it from the manufacturer the way you want it. Absolutely no need to get into us explaining how many 4 pin connectors you need and how big your power supply needs to be to make even a $200 graphics card work.
Don't get less than 16GB of RAM, it's too cheap not to(I put 64 GB in my current machine in 2021.)
You must have a machine that boots off of an SSD, but I'd suggest you make the cache location for your video ripping just a large regular hard drive (SSD for boot, big HDD for ripping.) I haven't had an issue with one of my SSDs dying yet, but they have a limited lifespan in terms of how much data you read/write from them. Messing with video reads and writes constantly. My oldest SSD has 186TB written to it in it's lifetime (I have three SSDs and an HDD in my rig.) Drive health is good, but I expect it will degrade. HDD are cheap, and you're going to need a lot of space to deal with the video before you presumably compress it into a portable format like MKV.
BTW, run this on your ever slowing current PC. The vast, vast majority of the time, PCs "slow down" because of Spyware, browser plugins, Adware, and crap like that.
Raspberry Pi? Seriously? OP is not dealing with this:
quote:That's no bueno.
Graphic Card : Integrated AMD Radeon™ Graphics
You see the second result?
quote:Much better. Not the best, but I can't tell you how crippling trying to rely on integrated graphics is for video/gaming. You don't need something that costs $3k, you don't need a $1k video card, you just need discrete graphics.
Graphic Card : AMD Radeon™ RX 6600M 8GB GDDR6
I don't buy graphics cards that cost more than about $240, so I don't think it matters if you go AMD or GeForce. Given your probable skill level, just buy it from the manufacturer the way you want it. Absolutely no need to get into us explaining how many 4 pin connectors you need and how big your power supply needs to be to make even a $200 graphics card work.
Don't get less than 16GB of RAM, it's too cheap not to(I put 64 GB in my current machine in 2021.)
You must have a machine that boots off of an SSD, but I'd suggest you make the cache location for your video ripping just a large regular hard drive (SSD for boot, big HDD for ripping.) I haven't had an issue with one of my SSDs dying yet, but they have a limited lifespan in terms of how much data you read/write from them. Messing with video reads and writes constantly. My oldest SSD has 186TB written to it in it's lifetime (I have three SSDs and an HDD in my rig.) Drive health is good, but I expect it will degrade. HDD are cheap, and you're going to need a lot of space to deal with the video before you presumably compress it into a portable format like MKV.
BTW, run this on your ever slowing current PC. The vast, vast majority of the time, PCs "slow down" because of Spyware, browser plugins, Adware, and crap like that.
Raspberry Pi? Seriously? OP is not dealing with this:
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:17 pm to LemmyLives
Very helpful! Many thanks. Not looking to make any major edits...just splice/delete unwanted parts...nothing at all fancy.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:19 pm to Korkstand
Well over a couple hundred hours of old vhs, vhs-c, etc. Looking to store the digital copies in dropbox folder to share with family members.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:44 pm to LemmyLives
quote:I didn't mean it as a suggestion, I meant that it's sufficient for basic VHS capturing. If you plan to edit or transcode the video then you'll obviously want more power, but even then I bet a Pi can do it without too much hassle on low-res video like OP will be dealing with.
Raspberry Pi? Seriously? OP is not dealing with this
Again, I am not suggesting OP should buy a Pi. The question was what is the minimum to rip VHS tapes and that is my answer.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:59 pm to Korkstand
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Again, I am not suggesting OP should buy a Pi. The question was what is the minimum to rip VHS tapes and that is my answer.
Agree- discreet graphics is overkill and a half for this application
I’m a huge fan of itx compact PCs for most uses. This one has an i7-8700t which will gladly do all you want and more with 16gb ram and a 512gb SSD. To the average Joe, this may be a little bit preferable to this model (i5-8500t, 8/256) because I don’t know where the average consumers stands today on: adding a 2.5” internal (I think there’s space for it), upgrading an internal ssd, plugging an external HDD in or using cloud/NAS storage and mapping drives. 256 will crunch fast, 512 should be ok for the application, but at some point, external may be necessary for this use case.
But in terms of raw horsepower, this machine is about 4y old but capable of more than what is being asked for. I buy this style machine (though the 8-series processors hit rock bottom about a year ago. I use 4-series in my office and the girls who use them love the machines. If you want current gen (12-series, I believe) processors, you’re looking at $800-2000/desktop depending on how you pimp it out.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:01 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Agree- discreet graphics is overkill and a half for this application
We have to consider the audience (no offense, OP). He can get talked into buying a $400 PoS that makes him hate the ground you walk on, or he can get something that is capable, for $1k, and he'll never remember this conversation.
Sorry, once you mention a mobo form factor, you have lost 99.5% of anyone on this board.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:08 pm to LemmyLives
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Sorry, once you mention a mobo form factor, you have lost 99.5% of anyone on this board.
Fair point. But neither of those machines were over $400. And both are going to, in his opinion, kick arse.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:10 pm to LemmyLives
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Sorry, once you mention a mobo form factor, you have lost 99.5% of anyone on this board.
It's why I tend to avoid threads asking for generic "best value laptop/pc" advice. It's just not an area of interest for me, so I assume I'll be shite at trying to answer the question
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