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Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:42 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:42 am to
Just tell us your budget (including monitor and peripherals) and someone here will piece out a build for you
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53956 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Bumping as I never pulled the trigger on this build, but am doing so for Christmas, and had a few follow up questions. Not real worried about exact price anymore, given my timing several items have increased, but trying to get pretty close to this type of build. Any input is greatly appreciated. Pretty much a novice at this:

(1) Video Card. Pu's build has ASRock Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card. I generally cannot find this, but am bidding on a used one on Ebay. Trying to figure out my Plan B. It looks like I can find:

(a) ASRock RX 570, but it is 4 (rather than 8) gigs, or

(b) MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card.

I am wondering if my assumption is correct: that (a) will perform less than the original build, but (b) will perform similar or perhaps better than the original build.

(2) Any HDD tips, do I just pick one that is compatible on the partspicker site?

(3) Monitor. At first we will just be going with an extra monitor from my office. What are the key specs I need to have this run as well as possible until we upgrade at a later time? Right now I am thinking it needs to have HDMI/Display port; 60hz; 1080p display; 5 ms or less response time. Have multiple options here, just need to know what specs I need to look at to decide which one is best to use.

Thanks again for all of the help!


What is the budget you have?
Posted by Ron Sancho
Member since Nov 2003
70 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 2:48 pm to
I am trying to do this build proposed on the first page, but a couple of components have gone up/aren't available. Budget is basically what it takes to get the performance of this build. Per prior suggestions, realize I need to add windows and HDD:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: HEC HX300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 400 W ATX Power Supply ($27.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse ($27.70 @ Amazon)
Total: $549.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-12 18:18 EDT-0400
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53956 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 5:18 pm to
I honestly want to help you, but do you absolutely want this PC now?

The prices and availability of CPUs, motherboards, GPUs, is just completely out of whack.

You basically can't get a Ryzen 1600, 2600, or 3600 at any reasonable price right now. Its a mess.

If you absolutely want something for $600 right now with a dedicated GPU, you're better off going Intel.

This is what I came up with, and I'm not even completely comfortable recommending this...

quote:

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($105.44 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($70.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Case: HEC HX300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BA 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $543.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-03 18:16 EST-0500
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 5:31 pm to
16gb of ram and a mech drive
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53956 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 5:48 pm to
I blanked out, I sorta put 16 on everything I do on PCP now

He just needs an 8 GB Dual Channel kit. For his purposes a mech drive is fine if he’s trying to keep the costs low. A WD 1 TB Blue drive should last him/his son a while for just 1080p 60 hz gaming
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Ron Sancho
Member since Nov 2003
70 posts
Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:29 pm to
Yes I've noticed how much the pricing and everything went up it has been difficult. I am going with the original build, have ordered everything but the Video Card and HDD. Not real tied to the price anymore, just trying to match the performance of the original build while accepting that I will be over paying.

So far I am about +120 over the original build- most of that is I overpaid for the Ryzen 2600 by about $80 it looks like. I know I've defeated the entire purpose of this endeavor, but it is what it is at this point and I think christmas is going to be lame for the kids this year so I'm trying to make this happen.

So on your Intel build, you mention the 4G Phantom Video Card...do you think that would work with the original build I had, or do I need to suck it up and get an 8G video card if I am going to do this?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53956 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 12:18 am to
4G should be fine for 1080p 60 Hz gaming. You may need to adjust settings depending on the game to hit 60 Hz, but it should be fine and hold you guys through until Graphics card prices normalize... hopefully they normalize.

I couldn’t find the 8G in stock anywhere.

If you’re not caring about costs for the Hard Drive at this point, go with a Crucial MX500 Sata SSD. Very proven brand and SSD. Can pick one up from Amazon for $53 right now. Crucial, Samsung, WD, SK Hynix are my go to brands for hard drives/ssds
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 12:19 am
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 7:13 am to
One thing I would suggest if you are planning to upgrade the GPU later is to get a larger Power Supply. These new NVidia 3000 series GPUs are very budget friendly for the performance upgrade but they do have much higher power requirements.

I would suggest a 700W+ Power Supply if your budget allows it.

I ran into this when I decided to upgrade. Ended up just building a new PC.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 7:19 am
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
38 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 8:15 am to
If you are in the Baton Rouge area, I can give you a used GTX 1080 card.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 8:37 am to
how much
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
38 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 8:47 am to
bluebarracuda

Free for his son's computer. Are you in need of one, or looking to resell on ebay?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33141 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:18 am to
Going to go with Hu_Flung_Pu on this one - PC Part Picker is your friend for building PCs, be it budget or high-end.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Are you in need of one, or looking to resell on ebay?


I've been looking for a card to throw in my Plex server for transcoding

But give it to the kid, he would enjoy it more
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:12 am
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
38 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:21 am to
I have 2, you can have the other.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 10:22 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18840 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:36 am to
Shoot me an email to bluebarracuda225@gmail.com
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
38 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:53 am to
email sent
Posted by Ron Sancho
Member since Nov 2003
70 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:09 am to
Wow, this would be great. I am in the Baton Rouge Area. Email me at -- please.

This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
38 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:28 am to
email sent
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53956 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:44 am to
A used 1080 is loads better than the 570. Glad youre getting a good deal
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