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Finch's Guide to Crypto Mining (GPU Mining)...
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:52 pm
First consideration when reading this thread…
I’ve only been doing this since March/April 2021 so don’t think of me as some kind of expert. This is just what I’ve learned over that frame so here it goes:
Before following the steps below, watch this video. It goes through what mining is and the different types of systems.
Cryptocurrency Mining for Dummies
Step 1 (Bare Minimum Components):
First thing you’re going to need is at least a 1-3 generation old GPU:
Nivida – 1000 series – 3000 series GPUs w/ 4GBs VRAM min. for RVN & 6 GBs VRAM min. for ETH
AMD – RX Series (400/500/Vega/5000/6000) w/ 4GBs VRAM min. for RVN & 6 GBs VRAM min. for ETH
If you have 1 or more of those, this will definitely be worth your while. If not, you may want to check out my GPU thread over on the Gaming Board and learn what your best solution is to getting a new gen GPU.
In addition to the GPUs, you’re going to need a somewhat new PC (no more than 10 years old). Anything older than 2012/2013 risks the chance of not all GPUs being used while mining. This depends on the number of PCIe slots you have and how many PCIe lanes your CPU can handle. I believe the minimum CPU is any FX series AMD CPU (8000/9000 series) and any 3rd gen i Series Intel CPU.
If you have these lying around, perfect. You’re halfway there. If all you have is a gaming PC and you want to do this as a hobby, great. Skip over Step 2 and move on over to Step 3.
Step 2 (Enthusiast Components):
If you want to do more than mine with your just your gaming PC, you’re going to need all the components listed in Step 1 and the following listed items below:
Note: These are the items I’m currently using. Do your own research and find the products that are suited to your needs and price ranges.
Ubit PCIe Risers
PCIe USB Splitter
HP Server Power Supply with Breakout Board and PCIe Power Cables Bundle (These are much cheaper than 1200 watt ATX PSUs)
PCIe Splitter Cables
Step 3 (Wallets):
Next, you’re going to want to create some accounts for wallets. If you don’t know what a wallet is, I suggest going over to the Money Talk board and reading the OP of the Crypto thread. Lots of information over there. My 3 suggestions are as follows:
Coinbase
Coinbase Pro
Exodus Wallet
If you plan on mining Ethereum until Ethereum 2.0 (Proof of Stake), you can mine directly to your Coinbase Wallet ID with no fees (I think).
If you plan on mining Ravencoin (RVN) or Ergo (ERG), Exodus wallet might be a good solution for you since Coinbase doesn’t list those, yet.
Step 4 (Operating Systems, Pools, and Miners):
NiceHash.com (Windows) - If you have a one GPU rig (old PC / gaming PC) this is probably the easiest way to get started and acquainted with mining. There's an installer that will automatically read your hardware and set the overclocks for you (you can still do them yourself if you like). It will also calculate profitability and switch miners for you so you're always mining the most profitable coin. Regardless if your mining ETH/RVN/ERG with Nicehash, you're always getting paid out in BTC (Bitcoin). That's just the way NiceHash is set up. Nicehash is partnered with Coinbase so when you reach the minimum limit of BTC, you can transfer to Coinbase for FREE.
HiveOS - HiveOS is a Linux based operating system. Instead of running windows, you can run Hive and set up all kinds of cool stuff. The main use of this operating system is the ability to easily remote into your system(s) and make adjustments (change overclocks, change miners, reboot systems, etc.). There's really too much to list here. This is really for the enthusiast to use. Not practical for a PC gaming computer.
Ethermine Pool
HiveOn Pool
These pools are essentially shared hashrate communities. Even if you're an enthusiast with 4-12 GPUs, maybe even more, it would literally take your forever to mine a whole block by yourself. Especially if you're mining ETH. Essentially, you'd never be paid. If you joined a pool, the entire pool gets rewards the block and gets split amongst the miners of that pool. That's where you're making the most money. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it. Hopefully, someone can correct me here as I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
Also, there are more than those 2 pools. Those are just the most popular. Do your research and see which ones are best for you. Google is your friend here.
T-Rex Miner (Nvidia Only / Windows)
Team Red Miner (AMD ONLY / Windows)
Pheonix Miner (Nvidia & AMD Compatable / Windows)
lolMiner (Nvidia & AMD Compatible / Windows)
Those are probably the top 4 miners being used today. The links are all for Windows use. If you decide to use HiveOS, Hive has these "pre-installed", and available from a selection list when setting up your Flight Sheets.
I’ve only been doing this since March/April 2021 so don’t think of me as some kind of expert. This is just what I’ve learned over that frame so here it goes:
Before following the steps below, watch this video. It goes through what mining is and the different types of systems.
Cryptocurrency Mining for Dummies
Step 1 (Bare Minimum Components):
First thing you’re going to need is at least a 1-3 generation old GPU:
Nivida – 1000 series – 3000 series GPUs w/ 4GBs VRAM min. for RVN & 6 GBs VRAM min. for ETH
AMD – RX Series (400/500/Vega/5000/6000) w/ 4GBs VRAM min. for RVN & 6 GBs VRAM min. for ETH
If you have 1 or more of those, this will definitely be worth your while. If not, you may want to check out my GPU thread over on the Gaming Board and learn what your best solution is to getting a new gen GPU.
In addition to the GPUs, you’re going to need a somewhat new PC (no more than 10 years old). Anything older than 2012/2013 risks the chance of not all GPUs being used while mining. This depends on the number of PCIe slots you have and how many PCIe lanes your CPU can handle. I believe the minimum CPU is any FX series AMD CPU (8000/9000 series) and any 3rd gen i Series Intel CPU.
If you have these lying around, perfect. You’re halfway there. If all you have is a gaming PC and you want to do this as a hobby, great. Skip over Step 2 and move on over to Step 3.
Step 2 (Enthusiast Components):
If you want to do more than mine with your just your gaming PC, you’re going to need all the components listed in Step 1 and the following listed items below:
Note: These are the items I’m currently using. Do your own research and find the products that are suited to your needs and price ranges.
Ubit PCIe Risers
PCIe USB Splitter
HP Server Power Supply with Breakout Board and PCIe Power Cables Bundle (These are much cheaper than 1200 watt ATX PSUs)
PCIe Splitter Cables
Step 3 (Wallets):
Next, you’re going to want to create some accounts for wallets. If you don’t know what a wallet is, I suggest going over to the Money Talk board and reading the OP of the Crypto thread. Lots of information over there. My 3 suggestions are as follows:
Coinbase
Coinbase Pro
Exodus Wallet
If you plan on mining Ethereum until Ethereum 2.0 (Proof of Stake), you can mine directly to your Coinbase Wallet ID with no fees (I think).
If you plan on mining Ravencoin (RVN) or Ergo (ERG), Exodus wallet might be a good solution for you since Coinbase doesn’t list those, yet.
Step 4 (Operating Systems, Pools, and Miners):
NiceHash.com (Windows) - If you have a one GPU rig (old PC / gaming PC) this is probably the easiest way to get started and acquainted with mining. There's an installer that will automatically read your hardware and set the overclocks for you (you can still do them yourself if you like). It will also calculate profitability and switch miners for you so you're always mining the most profitable coin. Regardless if your mining ETH/RVN/ERG with Nicehash, you're always getting paid out in BTC (Bitcoin). That's just the way NiceHash is set up. Nicehash is partnered with Coinbase so when you reach the minimum limit of BTC, you can transfer to Coinbase for FREE.
HiveOS - HiveOS is a Linux based operating system. Instead of running windows, you can run Hive and set up all kinds of cool stuff. The main use of this operating system is the ability to easily remote into your system(s) and make adjustments (change overclocks, change miners, reboot systems, etc.). There's really too much to list here. This is really for the enthusiast to use. Not practical for a PC gaming computer.
Ethermine Pool
HiveOn Pool
These pools are essentially shared hashrate communities. Even if you're an enthusiast with 4-12 GPUs, maybe even more, it would literally take your forever to mine a whole block by yourself. Especially if you're mining ETH. Essentially, you'd never be paid. If you joined a pool, the entire pool gets rewards the block and gets split amongst the miners of that pool. That's where you're making the most money. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it. Hopefully, someone can correct me here as I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
Also, there are more than those 2 pools. Those are just the most popular. Do your research and see which ones are best for you. Google is your friend here.
T-Rex Miner (Nvidia Only / Windows)
Team Red Miner (AMD ONLY / Windows)
Pheonix Miner (Nvidia & AMD Compatable / Windows)
lolMiner (Nvidia & AMD Compatible / Windows)
Those are probably the top 4 miners being used today. The links are all for Windows use. If you decide to use HiveOS, Hive has these "pre-installed", and available from a selection list when setting up your Flight Sheets.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 6:52 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:53 pm to finchmeister08
Helpful Links:
WhatToMine.com - This is essentially a hashrate calculator. Select your GPU at the top of the page along with the number of GPUs you have. Click "Calculate" and it will give you the most profitable coin to mine at that given time.
MiningChamber.com - This site will give you some suggestion overclocks to set your GPUs to while mining. Just select your GPU and it will give you a list of settings for each coin.
MSI Afterburner (Windows Users) - This is an overclocking tool for your GPU. Works perfect for Nvidia GPUs. Some have had success with AMD GPUs, but if you have trouble, you may want to use the Radeon Settings tool that's installed when you install the drivers for your AMD GPU.
Rapid Tables Electricity Calculator - With mining comes higher electricity usage. Take the total number of watts used for your mining rig and plug it in. It will give you a rough estimate of the increase to expect on your power bill.
Omni Calculator - Just another electricity calculator.
Helpful YouTube Channels
Red Panda Mining
BrandonCoin
Son of a Tech
Sebs FinTech
The Hobbyist Miner
ChumpChangeXD
Mining Chamber
YouTube GPU Repair Services
NorthridgeFix (GPU Repair Service - Northridge, CA)
Prime Tech Support (GPU Repair Service - Miami, FL)
Tech Cemetery (GPU Repair - location unknown)
Helpful Videos
GPU PCB Basics
WhatToMine.com - This is essentially a hashrate calculator. Select your GPU at the top of the page along with the number of GPUs you have. Click "Calculate" and it will give you the most profitable coin to mine at that given time.
MiningChamber.com - This site will give you some suggestion overclocks to set your GPUs to while mining. Just select your GPU and it will give you a list of settings for each coin.
MSI Afterburner (Windows Users) - This is an overclocking tool for your GPU. Works perfect for Nvidia GPUs. Some have had success with AMD GPUs, but if you have trouble, you may want to use the Radeon Settings tool that's installed when you install the drivers for your AMD GPU.
Rapid Tables Electricity Calculator - With mining comes higher electricity usage. Take the total number of watts used for your mining rig and plug it in. It will give you a rough estimate of the increase to expect on your power bill.
Omni Calculator - Just another electricity calculator.
Helpful YouTube Channels
Red Panda Mining
BrandonCoin
Son of a Tech
Sebs FinTech
The Hobbyist Miner
ChumpChangeXD
Mining Chamber
YouTube GPU Repair Services
NorthridgeFix (GPU Repair Service - Northridge, CA)
Prime Tech Support (GPU Repair Service - Miami, FL)
Tech Cemetery (GPU Repair - location unknown)
Helpful Videos
GPU PCB Basics
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:29 am to finchmeister08
Metamask is the best wallet I have ever used. Just make sure your coin is compatible. Exodus is horrendous.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:32 am to tenderfoot tigah
quote:
Exodus is horrendous.
i haven't used mine yet. i was gonna start when i started ravencoin. what issues have you had with exodus? and why is metamask better?
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:34 am to finchmeister08
No reason not to load your earnings into interest accounts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:15 am to finchmeister08
Blockfi, celsius, voyager
I use blockfi
I use blockfi
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:44 pm to finchmeister08
For non technical people, what would you buy? Is there a price range? Up to 5K? Up to 10K?
If I knew what to buy, I’d just go ahead and buy it.
If I knew what to buy, I’d just go ahead and buy it.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:29 pm to Iowa Golfer
If you want a small investment, get 4 1660 Supers. That will net you about $8 a day minus electricity. I posted the other components in the OP under step 2. Don’t pay over $400 each for them.
If you can wait a month, got to the GPU thread and find the MTechTx.com link. You can back order GPUs and I suggest the 3060ti FE model. It’s the non-LHR model. Give him a call before you order though. He can probably update you on the time frame. I ordered Monday (4) 3060ti FEs and he said 3-5 weeks. Other cards he can probably get faster. He’s got some 1660 models as well.
If you can wait a month, got to the GPU thread and find the MTechTx.com link. You can back order GPUs and I suggest the 3060ti FE model. It’s the non-LHR model. Give him a call before you order though. He can probably update you on the time frame. I ordered Monday (4) 3060ti FEs and he said 3-5 weeks. Other cards he can probably get faster. He’s got some 1660 models as well.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:43 pm to finchmeister08
Thanks. I’ll take some time to try to understand all of this. I’m pretty sure they all need 240V? I’m guessing step number one is to call an electrician to see if I have correct outlets, wiring etc? And they are all somewhat loud due to cooling fans?
What I’m looking for is a place to buy everything I need in one shot. I’ve owned BTC since it’s been in the 1000’s fwiw.
What I’m looking for is a place to buy everything I need in one shot. I’ve owned BTC since it’s been in the 1000’s fwiw.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:46 pm to Iowa Golfer
Oh man. You're going to have to learn how to build a computer first
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:49 pm to bluebarracuda
No, I'll pay to get that done, or buy a ready to go miner.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:52 pm to finchmeister08
Started mining with the new 3080ti the other day. VRAM was around 104-106C degrees. Yikes.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:56 pm to xXLSUXx
What model did you get? A lot of people have had success putting thermal pads between the card and the backplate where the memory sits.
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:58 pm to Iowa Golfer
You can get everything from Amazon except the GPUs. You can get the GPUs but you’re gonna overpay.
Here’s a 3 hour video from red panda mining.
LINK
Here’s a 3 hour video from red panda mining.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:26 pm to finchmeister08
quote:
What model did you get? A lot of people have had success putting thermal pads between the card and the backplate where the memory sits.
EVGA XC3 Gaming. But that's going to pretty much be the issue with any 3080 or above from what I've read.
I saw the thermal pad solution but it's primarily a gaming PC and in a case that's a bitch to remove so I'm not too concerned. If anything I'll just throw an aggressive fan curve at it and nuke the power in MSI afterburner until the thermals are in a more appropriate range.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:45 pm to xXLSUXx
You're going to kill your 3080ti if you don't heavily alter the cooling on it.
3090s are dying like crazy right now
3090s are dying like crazy right now
Posted on 8/20/21 at 12:06 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
You're going to kill your 3080ti if you don't heavily alter the cooling on it.
This
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:43 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
You're going to kill your 3080ti if you don't heavily alter the cooling on it.
At stock speeds and power? Sure.
But you can, and should, adjust the power to the card in your overclocking tool until you see an effect on hashrate. Not only will it keep the card cooler but it'll reduce your energy costs.
I just set up a friend's 3080ti FTW3 running at 51% power (~220W), stock pads, underclocked, and mem offset without seeing a loss in hashrate performance. And with core/mem/hotspot temps well under safe operating range.
But yes. People who plug cards straight in and don't bother tuning will shorten the life span and limit their potential earnings.
ETA: Also a recent NBminer update supposedly unlocked an extra 30% performance on 30 series LHR cards. LINK. I haven't tried it yet but planning to today/this weekend.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 7:22 am
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