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re: Extended Wifi
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:02 pm to Hopeful Doc
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:02 pm to Hopeful Doc
Ok. So could you take an AC powered ethernet switch with say 8-16 ports that produces the needed 5V DC power for the access points, and do all of this? Or is their a conversion somwhere that needs to take place. Aren't most devices DC and use a converter to power them up via a 110 AC outlet? Usually the round plugs with the large bricks attached that take up your entire damn power strip?
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:10 pm to CAD703X
What you can do is set up different SSID for the 5ghz and the 2.4 ghz. Put the 5ghz as the top wifi preference, and the 2.4 secondary.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:12 pm to warr09
I don't think so. this thread explains the downfall of that idea. Through the first two posts only, but the Ubiquiti unifi seems to use a non-standard 24v PoE instead of a lower voltage. I'm admittedly a little dumb here, but PoE, although a standard doesn't seem to be standard. So while your idea should work, you would need to find devices compliant with the amount of power you'd be supplying.
I'll edit this as I learn or allow someone smarter to completely berate my insufficient knowledge.
ETA- if it's any consolation, the PoE injector they sell would only take up one power strip plug, but it would be a hell of a messy room with all of those in it.
I'll edit this as I learn or allow someone smarter to completely berate my insufficient knowledge.
ETA- if it's any consolation, the PoE injector they sell would only take up one power strip plug, but it would be a hell of a messy room with all of those in it.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:33 pm to Hopeful Doc
My house is 3700sq ft/two story. I may just end up dumping a router at each end and call it done. I can tie into an outlet romex drop and install an outlet in my attic on each end. I like the idea of the AP. Just not sure about the Dc Power requirement and the best/most efficient way for me to achieve it.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:40 pm to warr09
Just get a PoE switch and a couple of access points. That's the correct solution. By putting in a second router you're just going to be using it as an access point, It won't be routing anything and it's not necessary.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:55 pm to broadhead
quote:
Just get a PoE switch and a couple of access points. That's the correct solution
looks like you have to upgrade from the $60 ubiquiti wifi access point to the $200 one if you want PoE. that raises the cost of this considerably
Unifi UAP-PRO
So i'm looking at:
2 UAP (non Pro) @ $50 (on sale) $100
vs
2 UAP PRO @ $200 = $400 + $75 GIG PoE switch = $500ish.
Comparision PDF from Ubiquiti:
LINK
ETA nevermind. Now i'm confused.
there's POE and "ubiquiti PoE" listed as separate line items.
why they gotta make shite so complicated.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:02 pm to CAD703X
UAP ($60 model)
UAP PRO ($200 model)
quote:
Wi-Fi Standards - 802.11 b/g/n*
Power Method - Passive Power over Ethernet (12-24V)
Power Supply - 24V, 0.5A PoE Adapter Included
Maximum Power Consumption - 4 W
UAP PRO ($200 model)
quote:
Wi-Fi Standards - 802.11 a/b/g/n
Power Method - Passive Power over Ethernet (48V), 802.3af Supported
Power Supply - 48V, 0.5A PoE Gigabit Adapter (Included)
Maximum Power Consumption - 12 W
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:05 pm to broadhead
This thread has been very informative for me. Learned a good bit of stuff I was unaware of.
I'm trying to figure out a way to do this. I have my router, modem, and computer in a front bedroom. I ran a single Cat5 cable to my PS3 in living room. Can I use a Ethernet switch with PoE here just before PS3, to run one cable to PS3, and another to a new AP run off PoE? This seems like an easy setup for me and would only run about $70.
quote:
Just get a PoE switch and a couple of access points. That's the correct solution. By putting in a second router you're just going to be using it as an access point, It won't be routing anything and it's not necessary.
I'm trying to figure out a way to do this. I have my router, modem, and computer in a front bedroom. I ran a single Cat5 cable to my PS3 in living room. Can I use a Ethernet switch with PoE here just before PS3, to run one cable to PS3, and another to a new AP run off PoE? This seems like an easy setup for me and would only run about $70.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:23 pm to LSUtigerME
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LSUtigerME
same here. very much considering the PRO version of the access point, but at more than twice the price..i'm on the fence.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:38 pm to LSUtigerME
quote:
I'm trying to figure out a way to do this. I have my router, modem, and computer in a front bedroom. I ran a single Cat5 cable to my PS3 in living room. Can I use a Ethernet switch with PoE here just before PS3, to run one cable to PS3, and another to a new AP run off PoE? This seems like an easy setup for me and would only run about $70.
Yes.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:55 pm to broadhead
quote:
Just get a PoE switch and a couple of access points. That's the correct solution. By putting in a second router you're just going to be using it as an access point, It won't be routing anything and it's not necessary.
Yeah, but if you know what you're doing, you can get as good of performance for signficantly less cost. WAPs are usually signficantly more expensive than comparably-spec'd consumer routers.
Also, you must make sure that both ends of the PoE follow the same protocol, as there are a handful of them. Otherwise, you've spent money on bricks. PoE isn't necessary for all applications. It's a nice plus at times, though.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:12 pm to Hopeful Doc
Found a TPlink switch with 4 poe ports and 4 regular ports, 10/100/1000.
So would I only then need the two/three AP or is there a main AP and sub-units. CAD muddied the water with that regular/pro mess!
So would I only then need the two/three AP or is there a main AP and sub-units. CAD muddied the water with that regular/pro mess!
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:33 pm to warr09
quote:
Found a TPlink switch with 4 poe ports and 4 regular ports, 10/100/1000.
i'm looking at that exact same one. maybe we will be setting our networks up at the same time.
quote:
So would I only then need the two/three AP or is there a main AP and sub-units. CAD muddied the water with that regular/pro mess!
ok, sorry. trying to 'future proof' a bit by going with the more elaborate access point that supports both networks my current one supports plus has gigabit ethernet instead of 10/100.
now i'm trying to be cheap & see if i can get away with ONE router & ONE access point or if i put the router in the middle of the house should i get 2 access points.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:44 pm to warr09
Ok, so tell me if this is sound thinking:
Internet>modem>router(see queztion below)>PoE switch>4 PoE devices and 4 regular Ethernet devices on an 8 port (4 POE/4 Reg) switch
Do I disable the radios on the router to keep it from "locking onto" the network, and it will switch seamlessly between the now active APs?
Internet>modem>router(see queztion below)>PoE switch>4 PoE devices and 4 regular Ethernet devices on an 8 port (4 POE/4 Reg) switch
Do I disable the radios on the router to keep it from "locking onto" the network, and it will switch seamlessly between the now active APs?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:47 pm to warr09
quote:
Internet>modem>router(see queztion below)>PoE switch>4 PoE devices and 4 regular Ethernet devices on an 8 port (4 POE/4 Reg) switch
all sounds fine so far
quote:
Do I disable the radios on the router to keep it from "locking onto" the network, and it will switch seamlessly between the now active APs?
good question. what determines 'hand off' to an AP vs the router's wifi signal?
thats part of the puzzle i'm missing as well. does it hand off when the signal drops below a certain threshold as you get further away from the router..and closer to the AP?
i guess i dont know how APs works :(
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:54 pm to CAD703X
eta, now i'm looking at maybe getting the 'long range' version of the UniFi for about $20 more and just going with a single AP (plus my router) to start with.
i'm so confused right now. i need to do some kind of audit of my new home's wifi signal i guess before i start trying to figure out if i need to buy one or 2.
since there's an outdoor pool, i'm really thinking that having 2 APs would be preferred or maybe one indoor and one outdoor. :(
i just want to be happy.
i'm so confused right now. i need to do some kind of audit of my new home's wifi signal i guess before i start trying to figure out if i need to buy one or 2.
since there's an outdoor pool, i'm really thinking that having 2 APs would be preferred or maybe one indoor and one outdoor. :(
i just want to be happy.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:05 pm to CAD703X
Yeah have a pool with a sunroom off our living room with a covered bar area. Only my bonus room upstairs would benefit from the AP. Most stuff in there will be hardwired ethernet. Then I would either use a) router signal b) AP #1 if I need to disable the wifi signal on the router. The AP#2 would cover my sunroom, kitchenand outdoor kitchen area, then AP#3 would cover my master bedroom and hopefully backcover/overlap AP#2 service area. If this still feels lacking, I would add a 4th AP
Posted on 2/3/15 at 7:15 am to CAD703X
CAD, the PRO version has 5GHz whereas the non-PRO does not. There is a PRO with AC 5GHz as well that is a little bit more.
Off Topic: CAD, I got myself an Asus zenwatch and I LOVE this thing...
Off Topic: CAD, I got myself an Asus zenwatch and I LOVE this thing...
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 7:20 am
Posted on 2/3/15 at 7:59 am to benstudley
I'll be interested to see how you like the watch a month from now. Takes a bit of time to get used to wear.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:30 am to Hopeful Doc
O M G !
Can someone just put a basic diagram of a home and show how to do this?!
Show the point where the modem is and go from there. Show it leaving the router and assume he needs 2 acces points and will hardwired 3 or 4 locations. (desktop, 2 tv's, etc)
Then show a list if the products needed. Show the best product for it to be legit for years (af, mgs, etc) with cat6!
Can we simply do this so all of us normal (tech dumb) can understand instead of trying to follow different what its from you experts.
AND GET IT STICKIED!!
It's obvious this is the now and the future and many many posters struggle with this daily nd need the same advice.
I personally would rather pay $500 more and do it right then to shave money and have to repeat in 2 years.
Is there a "kit" that is sold with a setup all in one box?
Thanks...just trying to help the normal guy who would do all of this but just needs the setup info without all the doubt.
Can someone just put a basic diagram of a home and show how to do this?!
Show the point where the modem is and go from there. Show it leaving the router and assume he needs 2 acces points and will hardwired 3 or 4 locations. (desktop, 2 tv's, etc)
Then show a list if the products needed. Show the best product for it to be legit for years (af, mgs, etc) with cat6!
Can we simply do this so all of us normal (tech dumb) can understand instead of trying to follow different what its from you experts.
AND GET IT STICKIED!!
It's obvious this is the now and the future and many many posters struggle with this daily nd need the same advice.
I personally would rather pay $500 more and do it right then to shave money and have to repeat in 2 years.
Is there a "kit" that is sold with a setup all in one box?
Thanks...just trying to help the normal guy who would do all of this but just needs the setup info without all the doubt.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 8:31 am
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