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Daisy Chained Wifi Extenders or Mesh Network?

Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:57 pm
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:57 pm
I just built a boat house across the road from my house on Bayou Terrebonne, which are about 150’ apart. Wifi router is on edge of house toward boathouse and my goal is to connect smart tv in boathouse. I’ve read pro’s and con’s of each option but wondering if anyone has any experience or thoughts on this?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9996 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:06 pm to
Extenders are an option of last resort. Daisy chaining them is a worse idea than mesh, as they will spend more of the available wireless data will be chewed up with the extenders connecting to each other. Mesh generally isn't as inefficient, but how would you power any of this stuff in between the boathouse and your house?

Also, there is the option of a directional antenna like this.. The wifi will travel farther just by being unidirectional.
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:17 pm to
I have an electrical outlet on front porch of house 10’ from wifi router, and an electrical outlet outside boat house under cover at boat lift, about 15’ from TV location and there is a line of sight between these 2 electrical receptacles.

Directional antenna looks like it could possibly help but doesn’t look like I could connect it to a tv?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9996 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:51 am to
With replaceable antennas, you need a device (usually a router) which has at least one removable antennae. You run an extender cable from the directional to the boat house router with the proper connection, and it is essentially two routers talking to each other. Then, you just connect the TV to the Wifi/Ethernet of the boat house router.

If we're just talking about one TV, just get the cheapest router with replaceable antennae from a reputable vendor (Linksys, TPLink, Netgear, etc.) potentially from eBay, and set the antenna up, and connect the devices. There are some nuances that I'm glossing over, but you can probably figure it out with board help. I don't know what brand of router you're current setup has, but I presume someone has an opinion on flashing the devices with Tomato, and whether to use vendor firmware or open source, but that's a different discussion (for later.)

Is there a chain link fence in between the locations? 5Ghz isn't an issue, but the wavelength of 2.4Ghz is nearly *exactly* blocked by conventional chain link fencing. It's not a huge deal, as you'll just need to push the directional antenna up the pole to get line of sight between them that is above the fencing.

Also, depending on the tree coverage, you may not be able to penetrate heavy tree concentrations without additional effort. The signal can penetrate leaves, but not a lot of wood. With unidirectional, it really becomes a line of sight game. No sheds between the two spots, etc.

I don't suppose you spend a *ton* of time watching 4k TV in the boathouse. Probably just background noise shooting the shite. These solutions are probably fine for that.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9996 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 12:57 am to
quote:

essentially two routers talking to each other. Then, you just connect the TV to the Wifi/Ethernet of the boat house router.


If this helps, the router has no idea what kind of antennae is connected to it, it just knows if there is a signal or not. OSI model, for you fellow geeks that will opine.

Your boathouse router just knows if it's connected, or not, it doesn't really care about how it is connected. There are multiple converters to change between physical formats, and they're cheap. To save frustration, I just order more connectors/cables than I think I need, and recycle the crap I didn't use (OK, I put it in a box I'll haul around for a decade.)
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:38 am to
Good stuff thanks and no fence in between, only an occasional vehicle passing on the road. Not sure what Tomato is but I will research that. Will be watching football mostly and other sports and live music.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1528 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:49 am to
Is line of sight clear? Have you considered PtP wireless bridge?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:56 am to
No offense but two routers and a big yagi to aim wifi seems like a pretty complicated setup.

He could just get a set of pre-paired PtP radios and plug into the TV (assuming it has an ethernet port).
Posted by captron
Occupied Sillycon Valley
Member since Jul 2018
505 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:21 pm to
A little pricey but I've heard these work well although I've never used one.


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This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 8:25 pm
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1528 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:27 am to
$100 for 2 nano loco 5ac and $15 for 2 poe injectors…add switch at distant end

I have this setup at my house for getting network to shed in backyard, and have setup other ubiquiti ptp at buddy’s farm. Installing one for customer tomorrow that needs wifi from house to detached barndominium w/apartment. Guy was gonna buy some expensive paired device off amazon and was excited when i mentioned the locos
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