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re: Cox Data plan, data meter

Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:41 am to
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then you will wish you had stuck with Eatel
Serious question. You don't think Eatel will be jumping on board with the data caps?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:02 pm to
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We've had the Eatel Lightwave bundle for two years. For the first year it was $135, second year $165. We just started our third year and it's $225.
Eesh. Yeah, Cox did the same thing to me, and it's pretty much going to go that way with any company if you're bundling TV. That's why so many are cutting the cord.

I don't know what Eatel would charge you, but my monthly bill for internet only is $65.95, taxes and fees included. And I've got SlingTV, so my "bundle" is less than $100/month, and I don't have to worry about intro rates expiring and my bill jumping up.

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So 2 years if there is a lot of 4k streaming, I'll switch to something else.
It's nice to have choices.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Serious question. You don't think Eatel will be jumping on board with the data caps?
They might, but as of now they apparently aren't even metering customer use, so hopefully it would take them a long time to get the systems set up, put together a rollout plan, etc.

And if the day ever comes and I'm left with only two choices, both with data caps... then you can bet your arse I'll be all over local government about a municipal option, or I'll get the ball rolling on starting my own ISP.


There are zero legit reasons to cap total data transfer. Bandwidth is bought and sold by capacity, NOT by data transferred. The ONLY reason for a data cap is because it is a way for an ISP to impose a tax on competing services. If an ISP claims it has to cap use for network management reasons, then it is clear that the ISP has sold services that it cannot provide. There are only 2 legit solutions: actually acquire capacity before reselling it, or stop selling capacity that they cannot provide to additional customers.

It is absolutely absurd that any company is allowed to collect fees for something that they cannot provide. If Walmart wants to sell more groceries, they need to buy more groceries first. If you pay for a banana, but then Walmart sells their last banana to someone else, then you either get your money back or Walmart buys another banana to give to you in exchange for your money. They don't get to charge you for a second banana and only give you one.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Correct me if I'm wrong but net neutrality doesn't address data caps right?
"Net neutrality" comes in many different forms, and is open to interpretation. At its core, its just the principle that all data should be treated equally. In the most lenient interpretation, data caps do not violate NN as long as all data past the cap is treated the same. But if we interpret NN in the context of the current ISP market, data caps are absolutely a violation of NN. Because in a more strict sense, NN means we shouldn't discriminate by mode of communication, and your TV signal is just data sent over a cable. Why does it matter if it comes in via the protocols of the internet or the protocols of your cable company's equipment? So once you hit your internet data cap, but your cable TV stream is not affected, that's a violation of NN in principle.

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That's why I think the consumer loses either way with net neutrality.
That's because the cable companies have worked very hard and spent a lot of money trying to convince consumers that NN is bad for them.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4973 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:41 pm to
We already exceeded our data limit with cox and still have like 2 weeks left in the billing cycle
Posted by RatLTrap
Member since May 2017
290 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:45 pm to
I was able to keep my data right under 1TB last month. Of course I was gone for an entire week on vacation
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
459 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:47 pm to
For those that have Cox and purchased their own modem, what modem are you using? I bought an Arris surfboard SBG6580 DOCSIS 3.0 N600 and they are telling me it isn't going to work
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99868 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21418 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:22 pm to
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It's 1TB, which may sound like a lot right now, but I assure you that it's not.


I cut the cord and went to Playsation vue in March. My kids watch netflix and Amazon prime video. I have 5 Tv's in the house plus tablets. We have gone over 1TB for the last 3 months. If you have a larger household it's not going to be hard to go over or at least come close.

I just checked I used 1022GB last cycle that ended today
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
459 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:55 am to
Is that a dual band router? I did a search and did not see it mentioned in the specifications
Posted by different arse
'Merica
Member since Apr 2014
4333 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:35 am to
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We've had the Eatel Lightwave bundle for two years. For the first year it was $135, second year $165. We just started our third year and it's $225.
Exactly why I dropped their tv service and went with PSVue. I still have their internet since there is no data cap. With 100mbps download and PSVue, I pay $135 a month.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
99868 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:56 am to
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Is that a dual band router? I did a search and did not see it mentioned in the specifications



Does not have WIFI. I have an Asus AC1900 for wifi/firewall.
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