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Car audio help - Is Crutchfield still the go to for sizing car speakers?

Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:03 pm
I bought a car a few months ago and while I love the car the speakers are just terrible. I don't really care about having some crazy hi-fi system but this is much worse than factory in most newer cars.

I tried configuring on crutchfield and they seem to think I have some 8" subs under the front seats



Definitely not

Is there a better car audio alternative site that I should look into?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77965 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:24 pm to
Crutchfield is hard to beat. Their support is just levels above all else.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:33 pm to
Looks like the subs were for a custom build out

I think I'm just going to replace the 4 shitty speakers and put a small powered sub in the trunk

I don't know much about car audio. My last couple of vehicles had pretty solid factory systems so never messed with it.

Looks like I can upgrade everything pretty easily since there are only 4 speakers in the car. These focal speakers are expensive!
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16532 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:41 am to
Crutchfield is just too easy. They give you any wiring adapters you need as well as complete instructions on how to remove trim panels.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:56 am to
I'm also lazy. I might get a quote at a professional installer and see what the difference will be

I have a feeling I'll want to go the DIY route once I get a quote

I've done this before but it's been about 20 years
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:04 pm to
Just replacing the speakers probably won’t give you much improvement since factory head units don’t typically push much power. You may want to consider adding an amp also.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Just replacing the speakers probably won’t give you much improvement since factory head units don’t typically push much power. You may want to consider adding an amp also.


I bought it used and the previous owner put in an aftermarket Pioneer head unit

Just looked it up and it says it has a built in amp: MOSFET 50 W x 4

I'd think that would be enough to push 4-5" 2 way speakers. I think that and a small powered sub would be a huge upgrade over the garbage that's in there now.
This post was edited on 7/3/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 8:29 pm to
In that case you should be good to go. Sorry, I assumed factory head unit.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 8:57 pm to
Reasonable assumption given how shitty the speakers are

I'll file this as a pet project for later. Can't really justify it at the moment.

I might be pleased with just the 4 new speakers and pass on the sub. It's comical how bad these things are
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/4/20 at 4:40 am to
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Just looked it up and it says it has a built in amp: MOSFET 50 W x 4



Unless things have changed dramatically, they still don't really push that much to the speakers. You have to look at the average or something like that. Point being, they'll sound a lot better with an amp, even if it says the unit will push them.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 4:41 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:17 pm to
quote:


Unless things have changed dramatically, they still don't really push that much to the speakers. You have to look at the average or something like that. Point being, they'll sound a lot better with an amp, even if it says the unit will push them.

Don't doubt you. I don't really plan on listening at a really high volume though. These speakers are just THAT bad. At 50% volume they're sounding like they're about to blow out.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9439 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 4:44 pm to
50x4 is max power.

22rms is the normal for a standalone head unit.

Get a cheap 4 channel amp and make sure each speaker has at least 50 RMS to have actual power improvement
Posted by 24nights
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
4778 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

focal


Not saying these are the best but I love the sound, kinda studio sounding imo.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 2:39 am to
quote:

50x4 is max power.

22rms is the normal for a standalone head unit.

Get a cheap 4 channel amp and make sure each speaker has at least 50 RMS to have actual power improvement



Good to know. It's odd that the speakers always give the continuous RMS power in the specs but a lot of head units don't.

Looks like the additional cost of a 4 channel amp isn't that much compared to what I may spend eventually anyway.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 2:41 am to
quote:



Not saying these are the best but I love the sound, kinda studio sounding imo.


Only thing that is discouraging me is the cost of those compared to other upgrades is obscene
Posted by 24nights
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
4778 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 3:36 am to
I’ve used focal for many years, I’m actually putting some in my tractor tomorrow
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36179 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:54 am to
Replace your 4 door speakers with a good reputable brand. Your mids and highs will be just fine. If you’re like me, and want some bass but not, I’m 17 again bass, get an 8” suitcase subwoofer. It’s small, compact, fits under a seat and has a built in amp. You’ll be blown away at how good it sounds and you can adjust the level accordingly. I got the Rockville SS8P 400w 8".

If you can’t measure your factory speakers for some reason, plug your car into amazon, search for speakers and let amazon tell you if it will fit or not.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9439 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:27 pm to
The speakers should be the first thing you upgrade in any system. A good set of door speakers can make a stock stereo sound good.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9439 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:28 pm to
Focal, Boston Acoustics and infinity to a degree
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:24 pm to
Polk's MM speaker series is a pretty good compromise between performance and cost, imo.
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