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Built-in home speakers - such a newb question

Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Skin
Member since Jun 2007
6370 posts
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:29 pm
The house we bought has pre-wired built-in speakers in the living room ceiling. We've been in the house over a year and have yet to take advantage of this. Sound from the TV is well below quality standards. Having zero experience with home theatre setup, I need some advice and guidance on how to get these things working (equipment, do's and don't, etc).

There's an abundance of wires just hanging near the cable wall outlet. None clearly marked to well, but most multi-colored. Safe to say I need a receiver first and foremost, right? Any recommendatons? Wouldn't think I need something that high powered. Could be wrong though. Would I need to purchase any additional equip?

Figured since it's Black Friday weekend I could find some good buys and knock out this project I've been putting off for so long.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66448 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 1:11 am to
Call Geek Squad to set you up. We've got surround sound in our den and geek squad did it all no prob.
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21278 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 6:15 am to
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There's an abundance of wires just hanging near the cable wall outlet. None clearly marked to well, but most multi-colored. Safe to say I need a receiver first and foremost, right

We're sort of in the same boat, so I'm jumping in your thread. We just moved into an old house with built in speakers outside in several areas, then we have random wires hanging out of walls in our den, breakfast area, downstairs bedroom, and library. I really would like to figure out the outdoor speaker situation. Any suggestions?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Safe to say I need a receiver first and foremost, right? Any recommendatons?



Could you take a picture of the speakers or at least count them and relatively describe their location?

It should be something like "3 on the wall where the tv is, 2 behind me" but if there are 7 there should be an additional set somewhere. It probably isn't more than that, but if it is, describe it a bit better. There are a lot of ways it could have been done before, there may or may not be an in-ceiling woofer (is one speaker way bigger?)

I/we need to know this to really recommend a receiver.

The receiver will need to be near those wires, have input from all the sources, and then have hdmi over to the tv (in some cases, this is far is the only reason I point it out, and you would be surprised the number of people that didn't really consider that).


Since your wires are unlabeled and multicolored, which colors are they? Red and black? Or are their 4 colors? Or are they some other color but one has a white stripe down it?
You are going to have to figure out how the wires are paired- 2 go to each speaker. If you notice it's "sets of pairs" of wires, it's easier- those will be your left/right pair of the same speaker. If you are nervous, grab a ladder and pull one of the speakers down to see which colors are wired to it, but usually it's going to be RB to one, WG to the other. White and red are usually positive, green and black negative. I'll stop the explanation there unless you have something else or still don't understand

You SHOULD label your wires somehow as you do this next step.
I would banana plug all the wires, because you're going to be connecting them a lot. I like Sewell Deadbolt banana plugs.
What you will have to do is plug each paired set of wires into the center channel , figure out which speaker plays, labeling the wires, and then plugging them into their appropriate receptacle once you know where they are (I would wait and put them all in instead of adding channels one at a time).
I would turn the receiver off between each connection.
If there's 2 or 3 pairs and one unpaired wire, it's your center probably
Let me know what you need help with.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 7:03 am to
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Santa Rosa Beach, FL


Call the folks at Planet Secure
Posted by TheriotAF
Member since Mar 2013
697 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:17 am to
I like the Yamaha receivers. I have one right now but about to upgrade bc I need 2 zones. They have a great app that allows you to control everything.

Accessories4Less has great prices on refurb receivers and quite a few people on this board have used them and recommend them.

If you let us know how many speakers and what kind and if there are any others in the house we could probably help narrow it down for you.

Edited for spelling/grammar bc we are Christmas decorating and I’m a few White Russians deep.
This post was edited on 11/23/18 at 10:19 am
Posted by Skin
Member since Jun 2007
6370 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 7:30 pm to
Thanks for the feedback everyone!

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Hopeful Doc


I’ll post pics when I get back home on Sunday
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3267 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:01 pm to
I had the same thing. Took a receiver and started trying the speaker wires one by one. Labeled each wire with the room and orientation. ie patio- north.

Then I bought a 4 zone speaker selector switch. One zone is outdoor, one is bar/den, one is kitchen/dining, the other is bed rooms. Plug approiate speaker wire into corresponding zone and put my receiver output into the switch input.

Viola. Done
I do not use them for surround sound. They are not that quality.
I’ve been researching how to set up a WiFi selector so I can change zones from my phone but no luck so far. They are expensive.

ETA. If your have sorround quality speakers in your tv room, you could just run those wires directly to the surround output of your receiver. The rest would go to the selector.
This post was edited on 11/23/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:46 pm to
Sounds like you mainly need receiver to hook up to existing speakers. I have a Denon 1913 which is a 7 channel surround or 5 + 2 in second zone that’s a few years old that I would let go for a good price since I can’t use it with the set up in my new house. Let me know If interested.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1548 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:08 pm to
Just renovated my house and this was the first thing I budgeted out. First thing is to figure out what wires go where. Simple voltage meter/tester will get that done. Next, do you have 5 (3 front facing 2 over head) or 7 (3 front 4 overhead) channels. That will help narrow down the receiver needed and how many channels. Receivers are a bit of dime a dozen. Yamaha and Onkyo are my preferred. Mainly due to bestbuy saturating the market of pioneer driving its quality down in recent years. I’m a stickler for sound. I was in live sound throughout college. Polk(Rc80/5) makes a very good quality wall speaker at a reasonable price. Stay away from Bose. The speakers are made by clarion. If you want fancy Klipsch makes a higher end unit but IMO, the difference in sound quality is almost nonexistent to untrained ears (per wife).

Note I bought 100% of the living room setup on amazon last year during the Black Friday/cyber sales.
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 11:52 pm to
What are you wanting to do with the area? Are you just wanting something that sounds better than your TV’s built in speakers or do you want a legitimate home theater? Are you really into music and want to sit and listen to your fav albums, etc?
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