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Are patents basically useless and a waste of time?

Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3542 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:27 pm
When Apple introduced the TouchID I bet it had some kind of a patent on it related to using a finger print to unlock a phone. It didn't stop others from putting similar sensors on the front (and back) of their own phones.

Ford first invented the kick-activated tailgate and added the feature to the Escape SUV IN 2012. I bet they had a patent for it too. However it didn't stop basically all other automakers from adding the same feature to their own lineups.

I know it is just two examples, but goes to show that however clever your patented idea might be, others can just copy it and use it basically without any repercussions. So why do companies even bother patenting anything in the first place, if you can't really stop other companies from copying it?

Thoughts?
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14770 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:34 pm to
Are you sure they just copied it? Maybe they could have licensed it out?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:36 pm to
Just google "wins patent infringement lawsuit" and you'll see plenty of companies that successfully defended their IP. And as mentioned above, sometimes it leads to licensing agreements. At the very least you force you competitors to jump through a bunch of hoops to steal your idea legally rather than letting them straight up steal it like a Chinese knockoff.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13140 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:52 pm to
It is definitely not useless. Just because others are doing it doesn't mean they are not violating it and you can get paid if you pursue it.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31005 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

When Apple introduced the TouchID I bet it had some kind of a patent on it related to using a finger print to unlock a phone.

They didnt have a patent on the concept of a mobile fingerprint reader. Just their implementation of it. Other companies were/are free to create their own implementation of the idea.

quote:

Ford first invented the kick-activated tailgate and added the feature to the Escape SUV IN 2012.

see above
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

When Apple introduced the TouchID I bet it had some kind of a patent on it related to using a finger print to unlock a phone.
quote:

The first mobile phone with a fingerprint scanner was the Toshiba G500 and G900 in 2007.
...then HTC made one, then Acer, then LG, then Motorola, then finally Apple.

And as already mentioned, you can't really patent just an idea. It has to be a specific process or method.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17416 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:02 pm to
Patent Trolling is a billion dollar industry but also:

When you see a company like AOL get bought by another tech firm it is not because of a recent growth trend in dialup customers. it is because of AOL's library intellectual propoerty
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20034 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

When Apple introduced the TouchID I bet it had some kind of a patent on it related to using a finger print to unlock a phone


Maybe it did. Or maybe another company developed that tech and patented it. Apple and others may have then licensed it from them.
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