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re: Why do so many people think they have the "rule change" that will fix soccer?

Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by petar
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:48 pm to
Me either.. Alexi and Wahl had a fit calling it timeouts etc. As long as it's not a normally added thing, I'm good with it
Posted by navy
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:52 pm to


yeah ...


- basketball was fine without the three point line and when dunks were banned.

- Who needs a 2-point conversion in the NFL ?

- College football was just pure awesomeness before the BCS and now playoff ... just go back to the traditional bowls. That went well.

- Who needs instant replay? It's better when calls are blatantly incorrect and stand as-is.

- Hockey was awesome when the games just tied all the time with no effort to get a winner.



I don't think one needs to blow up the game of soccer ... but, should always be open to new things that might... just might ... improve the game here and there.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:55 pm to
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navy



Did you even read the OP?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

- basketball was fine without the three point line and when dunks were banned.

- Who needs a 2-point conversion in the NFL ?

- College football was just pure awesomeness before the BCS and now playoff ... just go back to the traditional bowls. That went well.

- Hockey was awesome when the games just tied all the time with no effort to get a winner.


I would be fine if all of these sports went back to these old rules. I don't have a problem with ties over the course of the season, the old bowls, no dunks or threes, etc.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:59 pm to
Because there are some glaring flaws in the rules and jurisdiction of the game.
Posted by petar
Miami
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:03 pm to
False. There are some small issues such as yellow card carrying over but this is not rules changes you or op is talking about. Those rules hardly need huge change
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:06 pm to
That one is the worst but divers need to be punished more accordingly and red cards/PKs need to be tweaked. All fouls in the box do not need to be penalty kicks.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:13 pm to
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So when will you be terminated from existence?

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Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:14 pm to
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red cards/PK


dont want to bite dont want to bite..

frick it, how so?

quote:

ivers need to be punished more accordingly


been discussed too much to rehash here. you and most on here have a difference of opinion.

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All fouls in the box do not need to be penalty kicks.

Not this again
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:15 pm to
Rabble rabble rabble
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Chair

How have you not been banned yet?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
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All fouls in the box do not need to be penalty kicks.


Some people have complained that there is too much subjectivity in officiating the game. Wouldn't this make the officiating more subjective?


Also, I don't get the hate for how it is. People complain that there isn't enough scoring in soccer (I'm not saying you said this, Randy), but then they complain when the game is decided on a penalty kick, which involves a higher chance of scoring than otherwise.

I don't have a problem with Robben embellishing either. Acting too tough in the game might cause the ref to not call fouls when they should be called. The ref can't see everything. Besides, a defender has to be smart in those situations.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Why do so many people think they have the "rule change" that will fix soccer?
Main reason is because there are so few concrete, objective rules - Most are left to the discretion of the referee, which brings in human error. There's no way around fouls and penalties; those exist to some degree in every sport.

But I think "stoppage time" could be done away with. Have a 45:00 clock, stop the clock whenever there is a stoppage of play, and restart it whenever play resumes. Simple fix, and one less area for a referee to possibly insert his bias.

Also, the offside rule. It is obviously a necessary rule. But I think relying solely on the assistant referee's judgment in this era of replay technology is unnecessary. Without slowing down the game, someone could review all offside decisions and either uphold/overturn them. Unfortunately, too many goals are unfairly given or disallowed, which leads to huge frustration among fans, particularly new ones.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:40 pm to
The punishments are just far too harsh and almost never fit the crime.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Without slowing down the game, someone could review all offside decisions and either uphold/overturn them.

This could never happen with video replay. It would have to be something similar to the current goalline technology. Something would have to let the ref know within a 2-3 seconds.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:56 pm to
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there are so few rules..
Except there are 97,000 variations of each one... Refs have a lot to decipher (a lot is left for interpretation, but I guess that's in any sport).
Posted by petar
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Except there are 97,000 variations of each one

example?
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Without slowing down the game, someone could review all offside decisions and either uphold/overturn them.


This could never happen with video replay. It would have to be something similar to the current goalline technology. Something would have to let the ref know within a 2-3 seconds.
Would need to be ONLY for goals scored from an offside position (or at least called offside by the ref). If its not a goal scoring event, then you'd have 25 stoppages per game
Posted by KneffLSU
Louisiana
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:59 pm to
When overturning an offside call, how do you restart the ball? Once it's whistled offside then the attacking team has lost all momentum. If you let it continue then stop the play, you've wasted time that the clock operator should have stopped for in your scenario.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44869 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Except there are 97,000 variations of each one
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example?
Well, for example a FOUL resulting in a direct free kick:
Kick opponent
Trip
Jump at
Charge
Strike or attempt to strike
Push
Holding
Spitting
Handling the ball deliberately

Then the ref needs to determine if that particular offense was carless, wreckless, or excessive....
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 2:09 pm
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