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re: What should the punishment for flopping be?

Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by LukeSidewalker
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:10 pm to
All floppers should be bitten by Suarez.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:13 pm to
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It was a clear embellishment.



fify


I have no problem having the governing body going back and reviewing video and giving a retroactive yellow for flopping. But I doubt that changes much within the game.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:14 pm to
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el oh el

straight ejection for flopping???
that would make the situation worse as no ref would ever have the balls to call it.


But they have the balls the send off others as a result of flops?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:59 pm to
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I definitely disagree with this. Maybe more as in quantity bc there are more opportunities to flop. But in soccer pretty much anytime they can flop they do flop



That's my opinion as well.

Giving refs red card ejection powers over a flop is pretty drastic and problematic, but I think a retroactive enforcement procedure would do wonders. Would it end high stakes flopping in the box? No, the value of the goal is too high, and the risk/reward analysis says go for the flop.

However, all those annoying flops and stoppages at midfield would probably go down a bit. The risk/reward of keeping a ball at midfield over getting a yellow/ejection from next match favors not flopping I would think.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by TeamUSA10
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:00 pm to
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Can you imagine if basketball or hockey employed that rule? They would never have enough players to finish a game.


They do

ETA: the NBA reviews and penalizes for flopping
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80777 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:03 pm to
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They do


The NBA gives a straight Red(aka immediate ejection and automatic suspension for the following game) for flopping?


Link?
Posted by petar
Miami
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:03 pm to
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TeamUSA10


D wade was ejected from a game for flopping?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:08 pm to
I agree that there needs to be more enforcement of carding players for flopping, but a red card? I don't know...it's such a harsh penalty and if the ref is wrong about a flop when it was actually a foul, then that is a huge deal.
Posted by Anfield Road
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:09 pm to
Also for those calling for ejections (even though neither the NBA or NHL ejects anyone for flopping): An ejection in soccer has a greater impact than an ejection in basketball/hockey. An ejection in basketball/hockey would mean that the team goes without that player but there is no numeric advantage. An ejection in soccer would be the equivalent of giving a hockey team a power play for the rest of the game.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:13 pm to
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What should the punishment for flopping be?


Seems like they should review films after the fact, as it is just too hard to catch consistently in a live game. I guess FIFA and the professional leagues would have their own punishments and progression. Probably some levels of fines and/or suspensions. Is it really THAT widespread though? What's the trend? Is it on the rise?... decline?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80777 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:15 pm to
I think that it would have to start in a league like the EPL where they established a protocol and enforced it post-match and see how it works.

It could be great for the game.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:30 pm to
Dinner for Luis Suarez.

Why is a bad call on a flop awarding a penalty any worse than a missed call on a handball denying a penalty? Referee mistakes are part of the game.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Seems like they should review films after the fact, as it is just too hard to catch consistently in a live game


This could be a good idea
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