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re: USA - 23 for June 2, 2014

Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Shane4689
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:49 pm to
I'll say this one more time....Oguchi Onyewu IS TOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW TO PLAY FOR US!!!!!!!!!

Experience to see the play developing but cant make it there in time to stop the play. Oguchi defense.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83371 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
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'll say this one more time....Oguchi Onyewu IS TOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW TO PLAY FOR US!!!!!!!!!

Experience to see the play developing but cant make it there in time to stop the play. Oguchi defense.


Settle down.

Gooch is nowhere near Brazil. It's a non-issue.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:14 pm to
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Is that a natural spot for Fabian Johnson? I just don't recall seeing him play back there.



no

he is a natural winger but hes so damn good he can play on the back line. Wish we could use him as a lock out wide.
Posted by Sheep
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:57 pm to
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Gooch is nowhere near Brazil. It's a non-issue


Which is why Klinsmann keeps calling him in again and again and again, right?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Which is why Klinsmann keeps calling him in again and again and again, right?



He's been called in by Klinsmann twice in the past 2 years.

Gold Cup and Euro-based roster.

ETA: He made a grand total of 1 cap in the whole WCQ cycle, one less than Michael Orozco and none in 2013.

Gooch is a non-entity.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Sheep
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:25 pm to
From October:

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Queens Park Rangers manager Harry Redknapp dropped some pretty significant U.S. national team news on Friday, following U.S. international defender Oguchi Onyewu signed a short-term deal with QPR.

Congratulations ‘Gooch’, it seems as though your spot in the USMNT World Cup squad is all but confirmed.

“Jurgen Klinsmann rung me about him,” Redknapp said. “To recommend him and he said he’s almost certainly going to be in his squad for the World Cup, and really was a big fan of his and liked him very much. Klinsmann said Onyewu needs to go and play somewhere, because he wants him for the World Cup squad.


From last month:

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In a Q&A session on the U.S. Soccer website, Klinsmann mentioned names like Oguchi Onyewu, Tim Ream, Danny Williams and Brek Shea as players who have been in and out of the national team lineup and have faced some uncertainty with their clubs. But Klinsman said they are under constant evaluation by the national team coaches and can still make the 23-man World Cup roster.

“Absolutely! The door is still open until May,” Klinsmann said. “It’s about what happens over the next couple of months. We coaches are going to do our homework as well. We are going to put the puzzle together of hopefully 23 players that are totally committed, that are not only giving everything they have, but that also mix well together.”

Onyewu’s name jumps to the top of the list considering his mainstay status with the national team in the 2006 and ’10 World Cups. He just signed on with English Championship side Sheffield Wednesday and has a goal in four overall appearances. His last cap came when he wore the armband July 13 of last year in a 4-1 Gold Cup win over Cuba.


Go ahead and list all the other kickass CBs in our pool that are miles ahead of Gooch.

Here, I'll get you started:

A. Matt Besler
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:04 pm to
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A. Matt Besler


B. Omar Gonzales

C. Clarence Goodson

D. Geoff Cameron


There's the four you take to Brazil. Not saying that's a high-quality group, but they are in better form & physical shape than Gooch right now and Jurgen has relied on them a hell of a lot more in recent call ups.
Posted by Sheep
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:13 pm to
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B. Omar Gonzales


Tall, foot slow and lacks positional awareness, just like Gooch

quote:

C. Clarence Goodson


Tall, foot slow and lacks positional awareness, just like Gooch

quote:

D. Geoff Cameron


Agreed, but there's nothing that indicates he's in the plan at CB, especially if Cherundolo can't go.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83371 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:23 pm to
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RE: Gonzalez


But more athletic than Gooch.

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RE: Goodson


Has two working knees and can jump.

As for Cameron as a CB, in 2010 we took Gooch, DeMerit, Bocanegra and Goodson with Bocanegra also getting time at LB. I think the same approach will be taken this time around, three true CB's and Cameron who can be both a RB or a CB.



Look, don't get me wrong, I love everything Gooch has done for the US and I still tear up inside when I think of his injury in that Costa Rica game in '09. But, his time as a legitimate option for a World Cup is done. Jurgen has already shown that he has more faith in Besler, Omar, Cameron & Goodson and I'm fairly certain those are the four he will put on the plane (God forbid any injuries).

Sure, when he is asked if the door is open for other players like Gooch, he will say yes to keep the talent pool competitive. But, it's been clear for some time now that he is a step behind.

What sucks about it all is that, had he not gotten injured and fricked up his knee, he'd be the perfect partner with Besler for this World Cup and our back line would be pretty formidable.
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