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re: Suarez's Statement on yesterday Update on pg 5/13 planning to appeal suspension

Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:11 pm to
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there is no reasoning with you guys on here.


Look, I dont dislike you but you do realize that everyone here agrees he should be punished, agrees that what he did was wrong?

So you are outraged that some are not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water after he has served whatever punishment has been handed down?

Seems silly that you stand on some perceived moral high ground looking down at all us "scousers"
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25251 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:12 pm to
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You guys seems to be the only ones saying the punishment should be minimal and it should not carry over to club.


I think and fully expected FIFA to throw he book at him. He should probably be banned for a long time in International competition. Should not carry over into club play. But the banning should in no way be "minimal".
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:13 pm
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:16 pm to
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I think and fully expected FIFA to throw he book at him. He should probably be banned for a long time in International competition. Should not carry over into club play. But the banning should in no way be "minimal".


I dont think it will be minimal either. He will have to learn a hard lesson.

The bits being speculated is that it wont carry over to club from FIFA. Im not sure that the FA wont have something to say though. I dont know if thats within their scope though quite honestly. I have read varying opinions on that
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:16 pm to
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Should not carry over into club play. But the banning should in no way be "minimal".



Well FIFA has the power to make it including club and they should. It would be one thing if this was the first time but its on the third and on the worlds biggest stage.

Something major has to be done to make him realize what he does is not ok. Its a shame such a world class talent behaves how he does.

Then he won't even admit to what he did then claims its an agenda by Europeans. After beating England he talked shite about the English media and fans. The same media and fans who voted him POY. He just does not get it and something needs to be done.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126599 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:21 pm to
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Seems silly that you stand on some perceived moral high ground looking down at all us "scousers"



Its no moral high ground man.

Everyone finds it odd you will still support such a player.

How far does he push the limit until you guys say we are done. If Rooney or any other of United players kept doing this shite id want them gone.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29649 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:22 pm to
Would a ban from the next qualifying cycle and WC be sufficient?

Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:23 pm to
The "support" Suarez receives has legit convinced him that there is a conspiracy against him from the media.

That's the funny part about it. He's not playing the victim card. He legit believes he's the victim.

looney toons
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:24 pm to
I think that would be sufficient.

That does not affect his livelihood though. I realize this dude is freak nasty rich but until you put his livelihood (ability to make a pay check) in danger ain't nothing going to change.

Whether it's via a fine or suspension without pay. I just think that's the only way he changes his ways.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:24 pm to
As most may know, I'm one of the few "regulars" here that doesn't follow an international side - I follow the USMNT and the Galaxy.

So I'm not a "LFC hater" or a homer for a competing team.

I think Suarez is disgusting and should be given the max punishment. I think it should carry over to the club because maybe if you hit this animal in his wallet he might get the fricking hint.

I don't believe he just "loses his mind and doesn't know what he's doing". I think this was intentional (doing away from the ref and trying to cover it up immediately by pretending he got fouled) and he knew exactly what he was doing.

Quite frankly, his bullshite statement and the statements from the Uruguayan federation make me want the punishment to be more severe.

They are pissing on everyone's leg and telling them it's raining.

I understand LFC supporters have an attachment here and I get that but as an impartial observer, I find "supporting" and "defending" to be a distinction without a difference.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126599 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:25 pm to
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Would a ban from the next qualifying cycle and WC be sufficient?



30 games straight up would be fine

some have suggested a total ban until the new calendar year. Id be ok with that.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126599 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:26 pm to
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That's the funny part about it. He's not playing the victim card. He legit believes he's the victim.





I would go there but im not
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:27 pm to
Yea, I have a problem understanding the written word, and we are comparing a grown adult and his repeat offenses to a child making mistakes growing up.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:27 pm to
no kinda counseling or medicine gonna fix that. especially when he still receives support from the mouthbreathers
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29649 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Its no moral high ground man.


Sure it is.

quote:

Everyone finds it odd you will still support such a player.


Why does it matter? Honest question? If you are not trowing stones from a perceived moral high ground, what does it matter? If the player is punished and serves his time what do you want?

quote:

How far does he push the limit until you guys say we are done. If Rooney or any other of United players kept doing this shite id want them gone.


For me, his next major action while in a LFC kit would be the final straw for personally.

Its very easy for a manc to say "well I would of... if it were Rooney..." Not so sure I believe that, especially if it happened while representing England and not ManU
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:28 pm to
This man is a habitual line stepper. If he's allowed to play again, he will bite again.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:28 pm to
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Would a ban from the next qualifying cycle and WC be sufficient?


In my opinion the most fitting ban would certainly be one involving actual Uruguayan WC matches.

However, I do wonder if there will be a massive impetus to punish him in a way that's more obvious right away (not postponed years into the future).

The ban may well end up involving UEFA Champions' League.

This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126599 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Its very easy for a manc to say "well I would of... if it were Rooney..." Not so sure I believe that, especially if it happened while representing England and not ManU



Im all about second chances but your boy has had countless chances
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29649 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Yea, I have a problem understanding the written word, and we are comparing a grown adult and his repeat offenses to a child making mistakes growing up.


No. You had a problem differentiating between the though of supporting ones actions and disproving of ones actions but supporting the person.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25251 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Well FIFA has the power to make it including club


This is incorrect
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:33 pm to
everything i have seen on tv and the internet says they can. i'll try to find some links.

where are you getting your info?
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