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Should MLS ditch the conferences and the playoffs?

Posted on 9/27/13 at 4:58 pm
Posted by itawambadog
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 4:58 pm
Would it be a good idea to move toward the European system? Each team plays each other twice and the team with the most points wins the league title. Top 3 get an automatic bid to the to the Champions League and the winner of the US Open Cup gets the 4th spot. If the Open Cup winner is already in the top 3 then that spot goes to the 4th place team in the league. The Supporters Shield becomes a preseason game between the league champion and the open cup winner (or 2nd place team in the league).
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 5:42 pm to
it's an American league, why can't we use an American system? We don't have to copy the Euro system just cause.

Oh and they have the Supporter's Shield for whoever has the most points if you're into single table.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 5:44 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 5:45 pm to
I hate using a playoff to determine a league winner, so I'm definitely in favor the European system.
Posted by itawambadog
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 5:49 pm to
I think the European season is a little more fair. It rewards the team that's been the best all season instead of the one that gets hot late in the year.
Posted by TheZaba
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

it's an American league, why can't we use an American system?
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I like the European way they do it and think it's fair, but nothing gets Americans excited like playoffs. Nothing wrong with adding our own spin to help the attractability and get more people into the sport
Posted by itawambadog
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 6:24 pm to
I think the playoff system could be adjusted. Right now nearly half the league gets to go to the playoffs and this year the West is a lot better than the East. You could get rid of the conferences and maybe take the top 6, put them in 2 different groups, and then the group winners play in a final.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:06 pm to
I think the system of playing every team home and away is the most fair system and I am a huge advocate of trying to be more fair about deciding a champion. However, it is clear that MLS management not only doesn't want to add more games, they want to reduce the number of regular season games. Combine that with the goal of getting to 24 teams by 2020 and I don't think there is anyway they go to a European system any time soon.

I do like that the Supporters Shield winner is guaranteed a Champions League spot.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted by tom
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Should MLS ditch the conferences and the playoffs?


Yes, no. Conferences are completely pointless, but playoffs are what bring the mouthbreathing casuals in.
Posted by itawambadog
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:12 pm to
Yeah I heard that the league may cut 6 games out of the schedule. Isn't one of the problems with our national team players in the MLS is they don't get enough playing time while in England you play in a shite ton of games. A lot of times you play 2 games a week.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:14 pm to
I think MLS doesn't like their best players missing regular season games because they are on the same weekends as FIFA international tournaments.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:18 pm to
I do agree that MLS should go on an international break like other leagues do but they find a way to play more games. I'm sure it works better with an August to May schedule with the summer internationals. Maybe for MLS you go on a summer break and start the season a little earlier and end it a little later.
Posted by svb
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:22 pm to
Not a chance that Conferences and playoffs are eliminated. If they could do a single table I would be for it but with more than 20 teams it isn't a good idea.

Plus with the parity of MLS, they have a greater necessity for playoffs than other leagues.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:23 pm to
Yeah, I guess trying to avoid Northeast winter is part of their reasoning and they are already ending in late November.

I wouldn't mind a longer regular season and less playoff teams, though.

ETA: But, on second thought, that might not be as fun with no relegation system.

ETA2: Maybe not do a home and away for a couple of the playoff rounds and add two more regular season matches.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:31 pm to
In an ideal world MLS would stay at 20 teams and then absorb the NASL and turn it into MLS2 or whatever. BTW didn't Russia go to a traditional schedule?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:36 pm to
If by "traditional", you mean autumn to spring, then yes, according to Wikipedia:
quote:

Unlike most other European football leagues, the league traditionally ran in summer, from March to November, to avoid playing games in the cold and snowy weather in winter. This was altered ahead of the 2012–13 season, with the league planning to run the season from autumn to spring. The transitional season of the competition began in early 2011 and continued until summer of 2012. After the 16 Premier League teams played each other twice over the course of the 2011 calendar year, they were split into two groups of eight, and the teams played other teams in their groups two more times for a total of 44 games (30 in 2011 and 14 in 2012). Those two groups were contested in spring 2012, with the top eight clubs playing for the title and European places. The other sides vied to avoid relegation: the bottom two went down while the next two played off against the sides third and fourth in the National Football League, with the two losers being relegated (or denied promotion).[1] Under the current autumn-spring calendar, the league takes a three-month winter break from mid-December until mid-March.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 7:49 pm to
Yeah I don't think a 3 month break would work here.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:53 pm to
I don't mind it. It prevents there being a league champion before the season ends. I love the table system when days like when Manchester City (...those bitches) won the league in literally the last minutes of the season. I just think this system will allow Americans to casually gain interest in it instead of being forced to learn something else.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

We don't have to copy the Euro system just cause.


If only you said that about what is really important...
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