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re: "RAFA OUT." -Benitez

Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:44 pm to
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Maybe if you ever visited the place you would understand.


Been there, nice place.

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That's perfectly fine. And you have a damned good point


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But don't stoop so low as to use tragedies to your own ends in that argument


Well the tragedies are the point. Nothing I have said could be construed by any reasonable person as offensive. I have nothing but remorse for the victims which were innocent and their families. For those responsible for those incidents not so much. Pointing out that people were to blame for those incidents is not being disrespectful to those who passed away.

To use your 9/11 example. Would it be disrespectful to those families for someone to say that terrorists were to blame for the incident and the government handling of the situation was substandard? No, it's just stating the facts.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:46 pm to
That last paragraph jumped the shark.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:49 pm to
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Been there, nice place.


I find that hard to believe.

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Pointing out that people were to blame for those incidents is not being disrespectful to those who passed away.



Maybe we have a different opinion on this. As was previously said, police reports found both parties liable for what happened. I apologize if constable Randy thinks otherwise, but your opinion on who was responsible means (less than) nothing compared to those who did the ground work. Be that as it may, and regardless of who's at fault, its disrespectful to throw that tragedy around to prove a point, especially when you couldn't be more uneducated on the subject.

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To use your 9/11 example. Would it be disrespectful to those families for someone to say that terrorists were to blame for the incident and the government handling of the situation was substandard? No, it's just stating the facts.


Sorry I was unaware that commissioner Randy overturned the investigators findings. In that case, I take back all I've said.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:11 pm to
So while you Chelsea fans are in here, Do you wish Lukaku had been recalled?

Noticed he has 12 goals in 1300 minutes and RVP has 19 goals in 2200 minutes played... (another example Suarez 2300 - 18 goals)
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7739 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:28 pm to
Yes, but I'm not sure he is ready.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:32 pm to
Even though he's higher than any Chelsea Goal Scorers? (yes Ba has 2 more.. but only 3 with Chelsea)
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:38 pm to
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I find that hard to believe.


FA Cup Semi against Villa 2010, 3-0. Boom.

As for the rest I'm done on this topic for now. Sorry if my comments were somehow taken as being insensitive to any innocent victims. Not sure how it could have been taken that way but anyhow... I just find it humorous how Liverpool fans always seem to be on their high horse, especially when it comes to Chelsea.

Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:41 pm to
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So while you Chelsea fans are in here, Do you wish Lukaku had been recalled?


Yes and I hope we drop Torres this summer and give Lukaku more of a chance next season (unless we go out and get a truly world class stiker).

I was against him going on loan for the longest time but he had a couple of really poor showings toward the end of the pre-season which made me think it might be the right move.
Posted by WeOnlyHateMancs
Member since Sep 2012
400 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:51 pm to
Never tried to be on the high horse. I specifically said that I do not absolve Liverpool fans of the blame. But to say that Liverpool fans brought the 5 year ban on all the clubs in England is downright ignorant. But I see reading isn't your strong suit, neither I suppose is comprehension.

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That's an interesting take. I guess playing a large role in the deaths of over 100 people in a 4-5 year timeframe equals being "good at doing shite".


What that paragraph means is that thankfully you were so shite at football that your neo-nazi skin heads could not inflict carnage across Europe. Liverpool were hence the idiotic actions of some Liverpool fans were recognized by people across the continent. And while that does not absolve Liverpool fans of the blame, it also does not discount the fact that there were Chelsea fans who were equally worse hooligans just that they never caused something of the scale of Heysel, purely due to probability.

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Just like at H'boro. Just because cops did a horrendous job handling the situation and in the aftermath doesn't mean that Liverpool fans weren't a major source of the problem.
you can just go frick yourself.

Hillsborough had nought to do with Heysel. You are trying to ride the moral high horse by connecting two unconnected tragedies and pinning them squarely on one set of football fans. Liverpool fans were not the problem at Hillsborough if you think so then I guess it is pointless to argue with you.

I tried to ignore your posts but there was too much filth to just ignore.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:44 pm to
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That last paragraph jumped the shark.
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