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re: Messians vs Modrics

Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:57 pm to
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Seems like so many World Cups lately have penalties propping up the Golden Boot winner


“Yeah penalties are easy”

-Brazil and Harry Kane
Posted by bless u boys
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:59 pm to
Always a weird flex, singing about yourself.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:01 pm to
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League titles, cups
Champions League
Individual scoring honors
Copa America
World Cup
Olympics (obviously the lowest)


Without thinking:

Golden Ball - Scoring Titles
Champions League - Maybe NBA title again?
Domestic League title - Maybe NBA conference titles ?
Domestic cups - Maybe Division Titles
Copa America - I'd say Olympics but still idk about that
World Cup - No NBA equivalent

And soccer doesn't have an assist award so Messi would probably have like 8 of those too
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:08 pm to
Best thing about this result is we won’t have to watch Croatia’s style of play in another World Cup final.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:02 pm to
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Are you legitimately comparing a World Cup to an NBA Championship?



They aren't comparable, winning the NBA is a significantly bigger achievement

Just like winning the Champions League is more impressive than winning a World Cup. The best club teams would smoke the best World Cup team.
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Just like winning the Champions League is more impressive than winning a World Cup. The best club teams would smoke the best World Cup team.


I figured soccer was international enough like hockey that the big boys are basically all star teams compared to club teams.
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:10 pm to
This is beyond dumb. They’re all national teams. This is like saying winning a college national title isn’t impressive because they’re not playing NFL teams. All the best players in the world are still playing in the World Cup. Yes there might not be a super team, but every national team has to manage with their pool of players. It’s not like there’s one country that is made up of all first team champions league players. Try again.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:14 pm to
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This is like saying winning a college national title isn’t impressive because they’re not playing NFL teams.
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This is beyond dumb.


That's not close to the same thing.
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. All the best players in the world are still playing in the World Cup. Yes there might not be a super team, but every national team has to manage with their pool of players. It’s not like there’s one country that is made up of all first team champions league players. Try again.




I don't need to try it again. Club teams would beat national teams. They practice with each other waaaaay more, and obviously you have more talent on the team when you aren't forced to only take players from one country. I'm honestly shocked you're trying to argue it, and even more shocked you're being condescending while doing so.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:15 pm to
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They aren't comparable, winning the NBA is a significantly bigger achievement



lol
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:16 pm to
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lol


The NBA is the made up of teams that are the best in the world at the sport of basketball. The World Cup is not made up of the best teams in the world.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm honestly shocked you're trying to argue it, and


No one is, you fricking doughnut.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
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Argentina is genuinely one of the best teams I've seen on the international level.

Others include France 2018, Spain 2008 to 2012, Germany in 2014


Lol, so basically every team you've seen win a major tournament.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
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No one is, you fricking doughnut.



At least two people are right in this thread.

Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:22 pm to
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At least two people are right in this thread.


Saying the WC is the bigger accomplishment is not the same as saying WC teams are better than club teams lol
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Saying the WC is the bigger accomplishment is not the same as saying WC teams are better than club teams lol




From what requires more skill, IE is more impressive, the club championships are unequivocally better.

Because the world cup is not yearly, it is also an accomplishment that is quite great. Using a World Cup win to but Messi ahead of Jordan is stupid though for the reasons I have said.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:23 pm to
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The NBA is the made up of teams that are the best in the world at the sport of basketball. The World Cup is not made up of the best teams in the world.



I hence say lol again

World Cup is the most prestigious trophy on planet earth.

Messi has 4 Champions Leagues which is arguably the hardest yearly competition on earth to win.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:24 pm to
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World Cup is the most prestigious trophy on planet earth.


'
Why, because you say so?
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Messi has 4 Champions Leagues which is arguably the hardest yearly competition on earth to win.


In soccer. You are very obviously biased to soccer being the only relevant sport
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Lol, so basically every team you've seen win a major tournament.



Yeah hence the phrase "best team"

They have been phenomenal for 3 years now and no one can deny that. As I've mentioned, their balance is rivaled really only against those teams.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25313 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:25 pm to
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From what requires more skill, IE is more impressive, the club championships are unequivocally better.


The fact that club teams are better and more fluid make it less impressive. You can build super teams and transfer. You have to drag the country of your arbitrary birth to greatness.

You think it would be less impressive for Pulisic to win a WC for the US than the CL with Chelsea?

The frick are you on? Haha
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Why, because you say so?



we are getting nowhere here.

BTW Messi is the GOAT of GOATS
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 4:27 pm
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