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re: Matchday 1/26

Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:38 pm to
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In all honestly why is it so hard for you to accept the clear superiority of the EPL?


Da frick?


The PL is "exciting," but the quality of play is nowhere near that of La Liga or the Bundesliga.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:45 pm to
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The PL is "exciting," but the quality of play is nowhere near that of La Liga

Exactly. I´ve never said the prem isn´t exciting, or fun to watch. Never.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:11 pm to
Athletic scudded Osasuna 5-1. Ibai Gomez is quickly becoming a very good option.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Athletic scudded Osasuna 5-1.
1-5

In Pamplona. Amazing.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:43 pm to
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In Pamplona. Amazing.



They made the perfect call replacing Bielsa with Valverde.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:54 pm to
Caparrós bested Sevilla today with Levante, in Sevilla. Major drama.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:08 pm to
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The PL is "exciting," but the quality of play is nowhere near that of La Liga or the Bundesliga.


I guess the English sides just continuously luck into all that European success.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:09 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:17 pm to
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I guess the English sides just continuously luck into all that European success.


You can be a side built to win in Europe without playing attractive football. Chelsea 2011 is proof of that.

Man City, Arsenal, and 'Pool are playing attractive football, but the rest of the league isn't. In terms of play, this might be one of the worst seasons in the PL.

I was more entertain by the level of passing in the Verona-Napoli game and the Juventus-Lazio game this weekend than I have been by any PL game where I don't have a rooting interest.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:23 pm to
Well to me "quality" is the ability to get results not level of passing.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:27 pm to
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You can be a side built to win in Europe without playing attractive football. Chelsea 2011 is proof of that.
Exactly.

Anyway, what is all this success he´s talking about? Chelsea´s ´mon´back, mon´back, beep, beep, beep´, or Liverpool´s miracle against AC Milan, which was probably ten years earlier?

Did Rafa take fricking Chelsea to the UEFA title last year? I´m not sure, but think so.

Really. Really.

Check out La Liga´s hitlist, Randy. It´s MUCH longer, more consistent, and comprised of merit, not luck.

ETA yeah, I just realized I left a door open to your bufoonery, but I won´t respond.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:34 pm to
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Well to me "quality" is the ability to get results not level of passing.


Sure, but you say that as someone who is invested in a team. Getting a result against a big opponent is exciting. But for a neutral, I'd rather watch high quality attacking play. It's not like the matchups in Italy lacked defense. They just had a number of chances, good passing, tackling, counter attacking, etc. they had technically proficient players playing at an entertaining tempo.

Outside of Chelsea's success in 2011, the best attacking team in Europe usually wins, especially since the change in the offside rule in 2003.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:38 pm to
It's why Ancelotti had so much success in Europe but very little in Italy, as attacking teams are usually awarded.

The best Chelsea team in terms of attacking was moulded by Ancelotti, but he had the unfortunate timing of meeting a superb Inter headed by Mourinho and the revitalized Sneijder. If Ancelotti was at the helm of this Chelsea team, they'd be on top of the table in scoring.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:48 pm to
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Well to me "quality" is the ability to get results not level of passing. Mind you, that level of passing side has won five big ears, yet my club, which I love dearly since I was born, spends like the big boys (or more), recently hideously backed into one, and is still despised by all major storied clubs and their fans, screams ´quality´.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 6:06 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:28 pm to
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Check out La Liga´s hitlist, Randy.


What decade do you think this is?

Do you really want to go over what the EPL has done vs. La Liga over the last decade + in the Champions League?

It won't end well for you.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:38 pm to
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that level of passing side has won five big ears


One of many ways to skin a cat.

quote:

recently hideously backed into one


More than can be said for Real Madrid. Curious how beating the "best team ever" over two legs and Bayern in Munich is "backing into" anything but I guess I should consider who I'm dealing with.

quote:

is still despised by all major storied clubs and their fans


Boohoo other teams fans don't like us? How will I sleep tonighit?

Totally relevant point to the discussion by the way, kudos.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Do you really want to go over what the EPL has done vs. La Liga over the last decade + in the Champions League?


With Spanish players...


Also, Dandy, Isastegui >>>>>>>>>>>> Mayador
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Isastegui >>>>>>>>>>>> Mayador
Probably. I drink natural cider.


Asturian










Basque

Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:41 pm to
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With Spanish players...


Even if so, irrelevant to the discussion.

I have facts and stats you have excuses and memes.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 8:52 pm to
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Outside of Chelsea's success in 2011, the best attacking team in Europe usually wins, especially since the change in the offside rule in 2003.

What was the change in the rule? And how did it make things more attacking?
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