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re: Match Day 6/26 & 6/27 - Round of 16 Weekend Edition
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:54 pm to Bottom9
Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:54 pm to Bottom9
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mean Italy is pretty fricking right leaning too
Historically no...
In 2018 the anti establishment party won and Conte was made PM. But in 2021 he couldn't form a coalition so it was tasked to the former head of Central European banking to do so - Conte is still in role.
So for 3 short years yes it's a little right leaning but that was a huge win for the populist anti establishment. Now with a new government forming it's doubtful they hold on.
If you've ever been to Italy everything south of Rome is completely reliant on the government and very left wing. Also loves the EU
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 5:54 pm to Magician2
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Corruption hasn't left at all
International soccer (these tournamtwnts) are hands down the most corrupt spectacles
Austria is viewed as the right wing country with their current leadership and that does play a part with these eufa officials and trickles down to refs. It's all bullshite.
Proud of the Austrian team for fighting. Italians fight another day with the help of EUFA.
Jesus Christ some of y'all just can't turn it off, can you?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:00 pm to OldmanBeasley
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but I think ultimately who ever is able to score more goals will win
Props here my bruh
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:01 pm to Magician2
He was also not offside
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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Jesus Christ some of y'all just can't turn it off, can you?
Did you watch the game count?
Austria got robbed
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:04 pm to Magician2
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:17 pm to pvilleguru
I mean look at the stats
3 cards to 2
22 Fouls called to 10
Not even close
He’s into something
3 cards to 2
22 Fouls called to 10
Not even close
He’s into something
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:24 pm to Magician2
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First off it is relevant. Austria, Hungary and Poland are step sisters of Europe right now. If if you follow actual European politics - they are not like at all by the EU and western euro countries because of their leaders.
Second - Italy has a long standing tradition and is a top 3 football team in the world. Brazil, Italy, Germany so it makes sense for favoritism.
The second is a far likelier cause for referee favoritism than the first, as UEFA has existed outside of political arrangements, as it hasn't been synonymous with any European institution in its membership. That has been true since its founding, when it included the fascist states of Spain and Portugal, and Warsaw Pact states as well as the Western powers and neutral states. It's a silly thing to suggest that the current dynamics interfere to a great degree, namely because operating along contingent politics would mean something that you aren't thinking through entirely.
There is also a stylistic reason why there is a East-West divide in Europe at the moment, and that has to do with reorganization of youth programs that Western Europe mostly embraced, but has been slower to be implemented in larger countries in Central and Eastern Europe, save for the Balkans. Much of Eastern Europe also effectively allows German clubs to serve as finishing schools for their talent, to their overall detriment.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:30 pm to Magician2
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Second - Italy has a long standing tradition and is a top 3 football team in the world. Brazil, Italy, Germany so it makes sense for favoritism.
France and Belgium say hello. Germany isn’t even a top 10 team right now, arguably.
Impressive how you can be so consistently wrong but keep on going.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:35 pm to cwil177
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France and Belgium say hello. Germany isn’t even a top 10 team right now, arguably.
Impressive how you can be so consistently wrong but keep on going.
What the frick are you talking about idiot?
I was going off total World Cup championships and EUFA championships.
Germany has 4 world cups along with Italy
Germany has 3 UEFA - Italy has 1
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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That has been true since its founding, when it included the fascist states of Spain and Portugal, and Warsaw Pact states as well as the Western powers and neutral states. It's a silly thing to suggest that the current dynamics interfere to a great degree, namely because operating along contingent politics would mean something that you aren't thinking through entirely.
Politics today are completely different that the mid 50s
Politics has meshed and intertwined with sports today - do deny that is simply being obtuse or ignorant to today's sports climate. Hell Germany made a huge deal 3 days ago of not being able to light up the Munich stadium in pride colors....
Stuff like that wasn't happening back in the 50s when UEFA started.
It's not inconceivable to believe that since the formation of the EU which was 2000? I believe a lot of shite has changed in Europe. Which includes politics waterfallinf down to sports.
International football has been the center of controversy due to corruption see ahh hem Quatar and Russia holding future FIFA world cups because of the Sepp Blatters of the world to think those individuals don't exist in large in UEFA is being woefully ignorant.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:56 pm to Magician2
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Politics today are completely different that the mid 50s
Politics has meshed and intertwined with sports today - do deny that is simply being obtuse or ignorant to today's sports climate. Hell Germany made a huge deal 3 days ago of not being able to light up the Munich stadium in pride colors....
Brah, the suggestion that politics and sport wasn't intertwined in the past but does now flies in the face of the history of the sport. I'm begging you to at least learn about the sport, because it is and has always been overtly political, in a very obvious way. Then think about why an organization can be corrupt, favor certain teams, and not base that favoritism on contingent politics. You are making a nonsensical point, and you think it is meaningful.
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Stuff like that wasn't happening back in the 50s when UEFA started.
Yes, the absolutely non-contentious times of the 1950s. Brilliant point.
You are oddly invested in the random right-wing movements of Eastern Europe, when those movements don't really move away from European orthodoxy save for very few issues. The degree of difference between those states and the West is meaningfully small in comparison to every other era of European politics.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 6:57 pm to Magician2
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Politics today are completely different that the mid 50s
Politics has meshed and intertwined with sports today - do deny that is simply being obtuse or ignorant to today's sports climate. Hell Germany made a huge deal 3 days ago of not being able to light up the Munich stadium in pride colors....
Stuff like that wasn't happening back in the 50s when UEFA started.
It's not inconceivable to believe that since the formation of the EU which was 2000? I believe a lot of shite has changed in Europe. Which includes politics waterfallinf down to sports.
International football has been the center of controversy due to corruption see ahh hem Quatar and Russia holding future FIFA world cups because of the Sepp Blatters of the world to think those individuals don't exist in large in UEFA is being woefully ignorant.
Wow you are so wrong
For starters sport and politics have always been interwoven
Except in America where it’s been separated
This shite was most definitely happening before UEFA was formed as national teams and clubs were dictators or ruling parties propaganda arm.
Clubs have literally been formed for religious reasons, political parties and pure tribalism
Just look at history of Real Madrid and Barca
That shite just didn’t start 30 years ago
Blaming the formation of the EU is such a weak dick argument
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 6/26/21 at 7:10 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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He was also not offside
Looked off to me.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 7:14 pm to bbap
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Looked off to me.
That’s alright by me friend.
Not to me but we can have differing opinions.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:02 pm to bbap
quote:There's really not debate to be had. He was off.
Looked off to me.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:15 pm to pvilleguru
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There's really not debate to be had. He was off.
There is a debate. He wasn't off
Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:25 pm to Magician2
If you don't think he was off, then you don't know the rules.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:27 pm to pvilleguru
Totally man the "rules" get it right 100% of the time.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:34 pm to Magician2
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