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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:19 pm to
Who is in your opinion? You've seen how much worse man city's entire team is without him in the lineup. As for kos, since the 2nd leg of the bayern game last year I don't know if its possible for a CB to play better than Kos, not to mention he's scored the goal that got us into the CL two years in a row.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:24 pm to
Jan
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:26 pm to
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Fwiw Kompany isn't the best CB in the league
he could be. The problem is, one glaring miscue, and one is branded.

It´s like when all you prem punters were touting Vidic, and I remember him getting his waist ´twisted´ by whom I cannot remember now, possibly Torres, and he looked absolutely foolish. Not to say he´s not good, but one faux pas like that, and one is marked.


ETA Jap Stamm was another. Walter Samuel came to RM all highly touted, etc...., and he got abused continually in La Liga. Cannavaro was another.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 11:29 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:28 pm to
Fair enough. My original comment was throwaway I was just making a point that our D is stout enough to survive a weakling at CAM. I think with soccer players you have to go by tiers, and Kos, Agger, Vertongen, and Kompany are all in the first tier
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:31 pm to
It was Torres. Vidic has always been atrocious against Liverpool. Most reds by and player against a single team I believe. Today he was as tame as I've ever seen him.

Vidic was a top 3 CB in the world till injuries got him fwiw
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

I was just making a point that our D is stout enough to survive a weakling at CAM


I don't agree but we'll see how it goes
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:38 pm to
If we indeed sign him
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:39 pm to
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Vidic was a top 3 CB in the world till injuries got him fwiw
IMO, he was suspect before said injuries. The prem didn´t have the quality in attack back then, that they do now.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:53 pm to
Ehh, he was really good. Neck and neck with Terry for best CB in the league for a while.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:54 pm to
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Terry
whom I´ve seen abused as well.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:57 pm to
I see Piqué abused on a weekly basis, but he's still been a top CB almost his entire career
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 11:58 pm to
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I see Piqué abused on a weekly basis, but he's still been a top CB almost his entire career
you say this as if I love him, or proffer him up as the prototypical CB.

I don´t.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:01 am to
No, I used him as an example because he's a universally accepted top CB.

The same argument can be applied to damn near every defender alive.

Agger is world class, but gets exposed every once in a while
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:01 am to
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The same argument can be applied to damn near every defender alive.
I
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:03 am to
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The same argument can be applied to damn near every defender alive.
I am in full agreement. However, I see so much absolute discrediting of one, based upon one play, that I felt it important I call attention to it.

My comments about Samuel, Stamm and Cannavaro stand, however. Terry too (though not as much, as he never ceases to amaze).
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:06 am to
I wish there was a way to fit CR7, Ozil, Bale, Isco, and Modric or Xabi Alonso all into the same system at the same time. Put Falcao up front in December and watch the most beautiful game.

It is not practical, but that is my dream of Madrid's front six.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:07 am to
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However, I see so much absolute discrediting of one, based upon one play, that I felt it important


Who?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:07 am to
Neven Subotic has been so good lately
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:19 am to
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I wish there was a way to fit CR7, Ozil, Bale, Isco, and Modric or Xabi Alonso all into the same system at the same time. Put Falcao up front in December and watch the most beautiful game.

It is not practical, but that is my dream of Madrid's front six.


I really think Ancelotti is taken aback with Isco, and rethinking.

I don´t think anyone thought he was as ready as he is, to run a side, let alone Carletto.

With Bale, I think the logical, and possibly impossible striker for RM, is Lewandowski. Moreso than Falcao. Suárez has serious shortcomings in the system I think Ancelotti now has in mind.

I truly think Cristiano is redundant, and he knows it, that´s why he´s being so generous on the pitch, as he sees the raw material for La Décima.

I really don´t know what is going to happen.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 12:32 am to
I think Falcao could fit well. He seems versatile enough to mold into enough systems.

Bale, Ronaldo, Isco, and Ozil are so good that I feel they all need to be on the pitch.

Ancelotti needs to rethink his system and apply to these four guys IMO.

Play CR7 and Gareth on the wings. Ozil and Isco need to figure who will play the 10 and who can maybe drop or something. It is certainly a good problem to have. At the same time, can all work together (assuming Ozil drops the shite about Bale's salary).

Could a 4-1-4-1 even be realistic with this ensemble?

Diego Lopez
Arbeloa (frick)-Varane-Sergio Ramos-Marcelo
Khedira or Xabi Alonso or even Modric if he has the defensive discipline to do it
Bale-Isco-Ozil-Cristiano Ronaldo
Hopefully Falcao
This post was edited on 9/2/13 at 12:33 am
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