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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:36 pm to
Well I'm sure you wouldn't feel it was below Liverpool if we had pulled a stunt regarding Wilshire that essentially had him saying he won't play for you til you trade him. Whatever dude you're in the pool thread. If you don't want to hear scorn they deserve run back to the arsenal thread and talk about Jessie taking caffeine pills and how it shaped your childhood.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:39 pm to
Wow that sounded harsher than I meant but it's not like I'm in the arsenal thread throwing darts
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:46 pm to
the Dempsey thing is my main bone of contention. BR and Henry talking shite on us is like Meyer criticizing Miles for Hill's punishment.

I think you make some assumptions on what happened, but fair enough. my assumptions are in the opposite direction so probably no use discussing I just think, even if taken in the most scheming way possible, our bid didn't unsettle him. if there was scheming he was unsettled. if we're mere pawns to his plan the damage was done and the decision to move had already been made.

from all the reports today, the Suarez bridge with Liverpool and BR has totally burned down. Will be interesting to see what happens now. if you truly will never sell to us. he's going to be the best reserve player in the league.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:49 pm to
I think JWH is pissed...

Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:51 pm to
yo homie, I've gone through that already. cesc and rvp both went on strike. hell even Song was being an a-hole to force his way out, hence the quick deal.

if wilshere did that, I'd feel despondent, though not as much as I did the past two summers.

and again, we didn't cause suarez to pull any stunts. he wanted out at the end of last year.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 7:54 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:56 pm to
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I just think, even if taken in the most scheming way possible, our bid didn't unsettle him.


Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

I think JWH is pissed...



LINK

Some great quotes in there from the boss.

quote:

I will take strong, decisive action, absolutely. There has been total disrespect of the club - this is a lack of respect of a club that has given him everything. Absolutely everything



quote:

There were no promises made - categorically none - and no promises broken. Obviously, the remarks I’ve read, it is bitterly disappointing - but my job is bigger than that. My job is to fight and protect the club.


quote:

We have a standard at Liverpool and I will fight for my life to retain it. The Liverpool Way is all about being committed to the cause and fighting for the shirt. It’s also about dignity and being dignified in how you speak about the club. And it’s about unity.

Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:06 pm to
Fair enough. We see it completely different. Team colored lenses are allowed on the interwebz. Not everyone subscribes to somebody stooped to do it to me I'm okay stooping to do it to someone else.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:07 pm to
explain to me how your opinion that pere showed us the contract and told us what to do meshes with that?

how did our bid late in the summer have him strongly hinting at wanting to leave early in the summer?

he wants out. he wanted out. us being the only present option at the moment isn't a cause, it's a reaction.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:12 pm to
and to clarify, certainly this saga hasn't been optimal for your team pre-season preparation. but Suarez is the one trying to force his way out. we're just the only sucker out there at the moment who wants him and fits his seemingly shifting criteria.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 8:14 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:15 pm to
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explain to me how your opinion that pere showed us the contract and told us what to do meshes with that?



Guardiola tells Arsenal to bid £40m. Arsenal does; LFC rejects. Guardiola then tells Arsenal to bid £1 over to activate the "clause." Arsenal does; LFC rejects. Suddenly Suarez is giving "tell all" interviews bashing our manager and management for lying to him and unfairly forcing him to stay, completely alienating himself from the club.

If you don't think Guardiola's bitch move was the first domino in all of this, then I have no intention discussing it with you. Suarez wants to play CL, but until Arsenal entered the picture because of Guardiola, leaving England was all he discussed.

FWIW Dempsey had told Fulham he wanted to move as well.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:17 pm to
I can see reading between the lines of a situation isn't a strong suit. Or you just choose to see it how you see it.
I don't care to win an argument with you.

I'm just glad Rodgers and Henry obviously see it the way I do. I'll find my satisfaction in that.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:19 pm to
Well said beast
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6196 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:27 pm to
I think the only BPL team I'd want to sell to would possibly Chelsea, for Mata + cash. Otherwise, I'd tell Arsenal to eff off and shop him out of the country.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:28 pm to
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BR and Henry talking shite on us is like Meyer criticizing Miles for Hill's punishment.


Did they talk shite? I thought they just said it was inappropriate. Which it is.

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I think you make some assumptions on what happened


I think most assumption are integral in order for the situation to play out how it has. Its not like Arsenal randomly guessed 40,000+1 as a bid.

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our bid didn't unsettle him


I don't care that you unsettled him. I care (well I really don't care that much, as I said) that there is potential collusion to get the player to move on the cheap. Its not illegal. Its just shady, ruthless, and disrespectful. But again, its a business. These things happen in business. This is why I'm not angry, just surprised Arsenal acted that way.

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Suarez bridge with Liverpool and BR has totally burned down


BR is livid. His comments after the Valarenga game were awesome.

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he's going to be the best reserve player in the league.


He'll go to Spain or Italy I assume. If he stays he'll most likely have to apologize so he can play on the first team again. He really doesn't have a choice considering its a world cup year.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:30 pm to
I'd sell to Chelsea for £40m straight up no second thoughts.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

I think the only BPL team I'd want to sell to would possibly Chelsea, for Mata + cash


I'd sell him to Arsenal for 40 + Theo in a heartbeat.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 8:32 pm
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Chelsea


No way José.

SWIDT?

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Otherwise, I'd tell Arsenal to eff off and shop him out of the country.


Where to, though? Most of the UCL clubs that could afford him don't need a striker. RM would be a possibility, but it's conceivable he rots until January.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:32 pm to
Y'all seriously think Chelsea would buy him?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Y'all seriously think Chelsea would buy him?


They hired Benitez didn't they? Roman has veins of ice. Its win at all costs for him.
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