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Jill Ellis out as USWNT Manager come October

Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:44 pm
ESPN alert on my phone just now... will find link and edit OP upon doing so

ETA: ESPN.com

quote:

Jill Ellis, the only coach to win two Women's World Cups, is stepping down as head coach of the U.S. Women's National Team.

U.S. Soccer announced Tuesday that Ellis will step down after the USWNT completes its victory tour in October.

Ellis, 52, will remain with U.S. Soccer as an ambassador.

"When I accepted the head coaching position this was the timeframe I envisioned," Ellis said in a statement. "The timing is right to move on and the program is positioned to remain at the pinnacle of women's soccer. Change is something I have always embraced in my life and for me and my family this is the right moment."

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Ellis also coached the U.S. to the World Cup title in 2015. She currently has an overall record of 102-7-18.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted by vistajay
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:49 pm to
Going out on top
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:07 pm to
I still don't think she's a great coach. Honestly, if you are not a total F-up, anyone should be able to have a chance at winning the past two world cups with the talent pool available. USWNT won in spite of her, not because of.
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:09 pm to
She evidently had a tense relationship with the players. That probably helped make her decision for her.

Which is shame. Coaches who win two world cups do not grow on trees. Not to mention she never lost a world cup match.

I suspect, though I hope I am wrong, we will miss her in the coming years. Other countries are spending the time, effort, and money to catch up with the US in women's soccer.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:19 pm to
Rapinoe player-manager?
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

She evidently had a tense relationship with the players.


what for? did they not think she was political enough? too partial to certain players? the Hope Solo saga?


I don't get that part. I don't think she's an elite soccer mind by any means,or anything of the sort. but how much more success do you need to have to be endearing to your players
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:02 pm to
From this article
LINK
quote:

Ellis’s questionable lineup choices, in-game substitutions and lack of communication with players were often topics that came up when you had an offline conversation with some of the U.S. players, those who worked with her on a daily basis. In recent months, there were even whispers that some U.S. veterans might choose to retire early if Ellis stayed on after the World Cup.



ETA:
And a deadspin article
LINK
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

what for? did they not think she was political enough? too partial to certain players? the Hope Solo saga?




Mostly I get the impression she was a bit abrasive and was more then happy to toss veterans to the side in favor of younger players.

That having been said, she was fond of having her big game veterans in big games. As odd as it is that her relationship with the players was bad, her real coaching skill might have been assembling teams that had amazing team chemistry.

She might be an a-hole. But she might be the a-hole the team needs to force all those personalities to work together for the greater good.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:14 pm to
My best friend’s sister-in-law played for Jill Ellis in college. I’ve talked to her and my friend’s wife (who played for a rival and with multiple USWNT players), and they both said Ellis was a very passive-aggressive person. She was always on Ellis’s good side because she didn’t get into off the field trouble and was considered a “high effort” player. But someone like Sydney LeRoux would get on her bad side and Ellis wouldn’t speak to them for months. She would stop actively coaching players she disliked while giving them game time.

Apparently this continued to a certain extent on the USWNT.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Ellis’s questionable lineup choices, in-game substitutions and lack of communication with players were often topics that came up when you had an offline conversation with some of the U.S. players, those who worked with her on a daily basis. In recent months, there were even whispers that some U.S. veterans might choose to retire early if Ellis stayed on after the World Cup.


She had a noted tendency to rub players the wrong way.

That having been said, her results are hard to argue with. Especially since the world is catching up to the US in women's soccer.

I suspect we will hire a women's coach the team gets along with and we will not win the next major women's soccer event we are entered in.
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