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If there was promotio/relegation in US Soccer - 2011
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:01 pm
I know, I know.
"Never gonna happen"
regardless, I'm bored.
Since there are less than 20 teams in the MLS and only 8 in the NASL (US Soccer 2nd tier). I'm going to set the promotion relegation limit to 2 teams.
To make things more interesting though, lets say the 16th and 17th placed teams in the MLS battle it out in a relegation playoff while the 2nd and 3rd placed teams in NASL do the same for a promotion.
2011 MLS Final Standings(Team/points/goal differential)
1. LA Galaxy 67 +20 -- MLS Champion
2. Seattle Sounders 63 +19
3. Real Salt Lake 53 +8
4. FC Dallas 52 +3
5. Sporting KC 51 +10
6. Houston Dynamo 49 +4
7. Colorado Rapids 49 +3
8. Philadelphia Union 48 +8
9. Columbus Crew 47 -1
10. New York Red Bulls 46 +6
11. Chicago Fire 43 +1
12. Portland Timbers 42 -8
13. D.C. United 39 -3
14. San Jose Earthquakes 38 -5
15. Chivas USA 36 -2
16. Toronto FC 33 -23 -- Relegation Playoff
17. New England Revolution 28 -20 -- Relegation Playoff
18. Vancouver Whitecaps 28 -20 -- Relegated
2011 NASL Final Standings
1. Carolina Redhawks 54 +24 -- NASL Champion, Promoted
2. Puerto Rico Islanders 52 +9 -- Promotion Playoff
3. Tampa Bay Rowdies 41 +5 -- Promotion Playoff
4. Fort Lauderdale Strikers 38 -1
5. NSC Minnesota Stars 36 -2
6. FC Edmonton 36 -5 -- Relegation Playoff
7. Montreal Impact 35 +8 -- Relegation Playoff
8. Atlanta Silverbacks 16 -38 -- Relegated
2011 USL Pro Final Standings
1. Orlando City 51+20 -- USL Pro Champion, Promoted
2. Wilmington Hammerheads 45 +12 -- Promotion Playoff
3. Richmond Kickers 41 +13 -- Promotion Playoff
4. Rochester Rhinos 40 +8
5. Harrisburg City Islanders 37 +7
6. Charleston Battery 35 -1
7. Los Angeles Blues 33 +5
8. Charlotte Eagles 33 +3
9. Antigua Barracuda 29 0
10. Pittsburgh Riverhounds 25 -10
11. FC New York 25 -10
12. Dayton 12 -33
"Never gonna happen"
regardless, I'm bored.
Since there are less than 20 teams in the MLS and only 8 in the NASL (US Soccer 2nd tier). I'm going to set the promotion relegation limit to 2 teams.
To make things more interesting though, lets say the 16th and 17th placed teams in the MLS battle it out in a relegation playoff while the 2nd and 3rd placed teams in NASL do the same for a promotion.
2011 MLS Final Standings(Team/points/goal differential)
1. LA Galaxy 67 +20 -- MLS Champion
2. Seattle Sounders 63 +19
3. Real Salt Lake 53 +8
4. FC Dallas 52 +3
5. Sporting KC 51 +10
6. Houston Dynamo 49 +4
7. Colorado Rapids 49 +3
8. Philadelphia Union 48 +8
9. Columbus Crew 47 -1
10. New York Red Bulls 46 +6
11. Chicago Fire 43 +1
12. Portland Timbers 42 -8
13. D.C. United 39 -3
14. San Jose Earthquakes 38 -5
15. Chivas USA 36 -2
16. Toronto FC 33 -23 -- Relegation Playoff
17. New England Revolution 28 -20 -- Relegation Playoff
18. Vancouver Whitecaps 28 -20 -- Relegated
2011 NASL Final Standings
1. Carolina Redhawks 54 +24 -- NASL Champion, Promoted
2. Puerto Rico Islanders 52 +9 -- Promotion Playoff
3. Tampa Bay Rowdies 41 +5 -- Promotion Playoff
4. Fort Lauderdale Strikers 38 -1
5. NSC Minnesota Stars 36 -2
6. FC Edmonton 36 -5 -- Relegation Playoff
7. Montreal Impact 35 +8 -- Relegation Playoff
8. Atlanta Silverbacks 16 -38 -- Relegated
2011 USL Pro Final Standings
1. Orlando City 51+20 -- USL Pro Champion, Promoted
2. Wilmington Hammerheads 45 +12 -- Promotion Playoff
3. Richmond Kickers 41 +13 -- Promotion Playoff
4. Rochester Rhinos 40 +8
5. Harrisburg City Islanders 37 +7
6. Charleston Battery 35 -1
7. Los Angeles Blues 33 +5
8. Charlotte Eagles 33 +3
9. Antigua Barracuda 29 0
10. Pittsburgh Riverhounds 25 -10
11. FC New York 25 -10
12. Dayton 12 -33
This post was edited on 5/12/12 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:17 pm to Broski
You're saying we could get rid of the Canadians?

Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:24 pm to Broski
TFC stays in as the Supreme Champion of Canada and Supreme Champion of Being a Leaguewide Joke.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:33 pm to TN Bhoy
We need to ditch Chivas too.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:41 pm to Broski
Yes. Let's just promote and relegate four teams a piece.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:20 pm to WarSlamEagle
quote:Someone's not impressed with TFC's big 2-0 win last night.
Supreme Champion of Being a Leaguewide Joke.
Plus, when I think league-wide joke, I think of the last-place Portland Timbers. At least TFC was in the Champions League and TFC is actually in the finals of a tournament.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:32 pm to Gmorgan4982
In league play, TFC is ridiculous. Portland gets a pass because they're only in their second year.
And I'm sure TFC fans would trade some stinking Canadian title for relevancy in their own league.
And I'm sure TFC fans would trade some stinking Canadian title for relevancy in their own league.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:34 pm to WarSlamEagle
quote:Boooooo!!!
Portland gets a pass
You're letting your rationality get in the way of your SSFC fandom/Timbers hatred.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:39 pm to Broski
I think it should be incorporated over time. Would increase hype and talent
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:41 pm to Caplewood
quote:I foresee a soccer future where promotion/relegation is phased out instead of phased in over time.
I think it should be incorporated over time. Would increase hype and talent
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:42 pm to Gmorgan4982
I love it personally. I can see how it would be not an American thing though.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:45 pm to Caplewood
Yeah, I like it, too, but my soccer crystal ball does not always show me things that I like.
Although it is definitely showing a Spurs 3rd place finish this Sunday!
Although it is definitely showing a Spurs 3rd place finish this Sunday!
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:47 pm to Caplewood
This is why no one voted for you in the popularity contest threads. 
Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:51 pm to Gmorgan4982
That and I was banned for six months.
I was in the group of death IMO
I was in the group of death IMO
Posted on 5/11/12 at 4:38 pm to Broski
Promotion/relegation would make the system a whole hell lot better that's for sure
Posted on 5/11/12 at 5:10 pm to Patch
I'm not very well versed in the NASL, so someone tell me how good/bad are their teams? Would they be able to compete low to mid table first year up similar to how other promoted teams are?
Posted on 5/11/12 at 5:15 pm to Tweezy
quote:
I'm not very well versed in the NASL, so someone tell me how good/bad are their teams? Would they be able to compete low to mid table first year up similar to how other promoted teams are?
None of them would survive relegation the next season without fantastic team chemistry (RSL, Swansea) or significant investment in the playing staff.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 5:19 pm to BobLoblaw
Yeah that's kind of what I figured, would be cool but seems fantastical at this point. Probably have to restructure the league(s) to implement something like this
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