How is this not a red? Or even a yellow?

I thought he did get yellow.

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He got a yellow.

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Hmm, this was not immediately apparent as I watched

Bc the ref waited to show the card

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Apparently it's only red of you actually get them in the face with studs. That's how they've called it anyway.

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I will admit that the picture a lot of people are showing includes this angle and makes it look like the studs catch him, when in fact it was the side of the boot.

It probably should have been a red card though. Valencia clearly knows the man is there and knows exactly what he's doing. The incident people are using in comparison is Mane's red after hitting Ederson. He was actually trying to play the ball, had no clue where Ederson was, lost out and still was sent off.

That's a good point as well.

I honestly don't really care whether the refs are going to make this a red card offense, but they need to be consistent, which we all know appears to be impossible.

Still should have been a straight red. ManU bias, amirite?

I'm torn on this one, because on one hand I agree with you that it shouldn't be red, but it's just inconsistent based on the Mane call... But I can't argue that Mane's SHOULDN'T be red.

I was going to say yellow, but then you said:

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Valencia

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He knew what he was doing.

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He knew Ederson was coming

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Yet his eyes were glued to the ball and he had no idea Ederson would launch his head into the challenge

VVD def kicked Lemela