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Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:09 pm to hendersonshands
I like Barca so I'm not. I don't hate Madrid, its hard to pull against a team with that much talent and plays positive football, but I support Barca when they play.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:10 pm to hendersonshands
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I do agree that defending is more than tackling and marking but as a center back, I think those two factors are still the most important.
To counter:
Does defending disappear once a player's team is in possession.
Look at Spain's defensive record this past Euros. They allowed one goal in six games. Who gives a shite if Pique can't tackle like Shawcross? If he can retain/recycle possession for his team, it's a much more effective mode of defending.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:10 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
I do agree that defending is more than tackling and marking but as a center back, I think those two factors are still the most important.
This.
He doesn't defend and position himself well enough at times for me to put him on the same level as other wrold class defenders. Definitely a great defender though
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:11 pm to DB10_AFC
quote:
I like Barca so I'm not. I don't hate Madrid, its hard to pull against a team with that much talent and plays positive football, but I support Barca when they play.
Same here except I do not care much for Real
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:12 pm to DB10_AFC
I wish someone would stomp Pepe in the face.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:12 pm to petar
That is because Barca's CBs are pushed up high and usually face oncoming counters with little or no help.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:12 pm to petar
That's if you think about defending from a classical standpoint. Vidic and Pique are world class defenders for different reasons.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:13 pm to Atom-Z
quote:Don't get me wrong I hate Mourinho, Pepe, and Marcelo but I like to watch Madrid play.
Same here except I do not care much for Real
This post was edited on 8/29/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:13 pm to thenry712
Like I said, I recognize that those are important factors and I wouldn't be opposed to Pique playing for my favorite team but in the rare occasion when he's called on to defend, I'm not confident that he won't do something stupid.
For me a world-class defender is a guy who I can count on in all facets of the game. I guess we just have different definitions of world-class.
For me a world-class defender is a guy who I can count on in all facets of the game. I guess we just have different definitions of world-class.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:13 pm to VanRIch
Hardly, for starters, the guy two positions to his left has him beaten in pure thuggery.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:14 pm to DB10_AFC
I don't know why but I just can't stand a few of Reals players. Marcelo, Pepe, Contreao(sp) Other than that, I like watching them work the ball.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:15 pm to thenry712
Would you rather Vidic or Pique?
I think Vidic (pre-injury mostly) is good enough at retaining possession for me to take his defending over Pique.
I think Vidic (pre-injury mostly) is good enough at retaining possession for me to take his defending over Pique.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:16 pm to hendersonshands
Motherfricking Lionel Messi
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:16 pm to hendersonshands
wow
Messi gonna Messi
Messi gonna Messi
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:17 pm to joey barton
Meh, I'll never forget Pepe stomping on Messi's hand last year.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:18 pm to Atom-Z
C Ronaldo just tried to one up him. Very close too.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 4:18 pm to VanRIch
Barca's defense needs some help.
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