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re: Gold Cup Final: United States of America vs. Mexico, 7:30 FSC, Univision

Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:44 pm to
agree with every word of that
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:45 pm to
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we just need money and a person who honestly believes we can become world class


It's not like this person is waiting to be asked. The MLS should be leading this thing, as they stand to make the most money out of it with transfer fees.

At some point we should also take a step back and realize that we've been taking this sport seriously for about, give or take, 25 years. Our progress in that time has been nothing short of amazing, but this final step, as with most fields, perhaps requires the most amount of work and vision.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:46 pm to
i agree that we're a lot better now than we were 10 years ago, and that likely will increase

the MLS needs to be like porto. realize its place as a place to invest in youth players to sell them
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

we just need money and a person who honestly believes we can become world class

gulati and bradley don't believe this


Continuing to call up Bornstein is proof of that. I would rather pick the best 18 year old defender we have and let him f things up than call up Bornstein ever again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:52 pm to
poison thinking

they believe it's good enough that we're good enough
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

At some point we should also take a step back and realize that we've been taking this sport seriously for about, give or take, 25 years. Our progress in that time has been nothing short of amazing, but this final step, as with most fields, perhaps requires the most amount of work and vision.


a simple analogy is someone who takes up golfing from scratch at their local course and over time, gets a lot better. But, as every golfer knows, the hardest gap is from becoming good to really good/elite.

We've probably hit our internal ceiling and now it's time to go outside our borders and find someone to help us keep improving.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

the MLS needs to be like porto. realize its place as a place to invest in youth players to sell them


The financial windfall for selling players will be gigantic if we do this right.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:56 pm to
but that's not what those in charge want right now

they believe that the MLS will be good enough soon, and making money via tickets/tv will be better than millions a year selling players
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

We've probably hit our internal ceiling and now it's time to go outside our borders and find someone to help us keep improving.


If we don't go in this direction with the next hire, I'll be upset.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:58 pm to
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they believe that the MLS will be good enough soon, and making money via tickets/tv will be better than millions a year selling players


Makes my head hurt that a player like Kljestan nearly went to Celtic for 4 million. A big problem with this is the MLS refuses to budge on giving up the players portion of the transfer fee.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:59 pm to
I will push usmnt to the outside of my caring abilities if that happens. I'm not in the habit of rooting blindly for stagnant sports teams
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 11:01 pm to
Missed the whole match. Recap? Should I go out and burn down a barrio?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 11:02 pm to
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A big problem with this is the MLS refuses to budge on giving up the players portion of the transfer fee.

yeah it's all fricked up

donovan should be at everton and kleistan needs to be at celtic
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
I'm hoping with this next generation of soccer fans will force some kind of pragmatic change. We could possibly organize and keep the USSF and MLS honest about these things.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 11:06 pm to
that's like $20M that is left on the table

we also need more things like the generation adidas concept
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
Basically we need money in the hands of people who actually care about the future of U.S. soccer.
Posted by ATLienTiger
NOLA
Member since Oct 2006
27279 posts
Posted on 6/26/11 at 4:56 am to
so I went down Bourbon 2night, this after all the bears at my friends place. I am now having a mcd's b
fast with a knife only, im that stu stu, and was hollering my lungs out with my american flag and bandanna on bourbon this night, needless to say ther were some.... more like plenty of dumb peeps out there. Also I forgot how hot it was, but since i am still in my 20's it was well worth it...
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 6/26/11 at 7:46 am to
When you care, which you obviously do it's supposed to feel like somebody just died...my fear is the ship will remain rudderless through the next year or so and we will still be grasping at straws before the next WC cycle. I am however convinced that Bobbo is not the man for the job. If we've had success it was in spite of his "Coaching" MHO
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:44 am to
From what I've gathered so far:

1. We got two goals against the run of play.
2. Dolo got hurt. Inexplicably, Skeletor brought in Bornsucko.
3. Bornsucko got caught out of position and ball watching, resulting in three goals.
4. After going up 2-0, we bunkered, but we did it poorly.
5. Timmy played like a coward.
6. Adu played well.

Am I missing anything?
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:53 am to
7. Dos Santos and Chicharito blew past our defenders like they were standing still.
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