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Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then bradley/holden as holding/defensive mids
Holden will probably play higher. He and Adu might be our Dempsey/Donovan of the future - worse at finishing but better at passing.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:14 pm to NOTORlOUSD
they are booing America.... 
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:14 pm to LfcSU3520
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the 'we're more athletic' garbage needs to stop after today hopefully.
I don't think it matters how good the athletes are that we send out there. Where can we go if technical skill isn't stressed all the way on up?
we acutally rely more on skill than athleticism now
dempsey, adu, etc aren't exactly athletic freaks
landon is still pretty quick, but he's tee tiny
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we need a tall CB to rule the air and help on set pieces
I guess Gooch will never be the same ?
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:14 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I'm not sure but I also doubt that youth coaching in the U.S. is as good as it is in many other countries.
This.
The ideal body type for soccer does not match up with any other US sport. 5'10 175 lb guys can't play professional basketball, football, or even baseball. They can dominate at soccer. That being said 6'6 240lb guys can't play soccer.
It's the youth development coaches' responsibility to find and develop the right kids. Soccer is just one of those games you have to grow up playing. If you don't get them young, they are pretty much lost.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:15 pm to NOTORlOUSD
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Holden will probably play higher. He and Adu might be our Dempsey/Donovan of the future
eh
i think bedoya will play a wing-type role
i think holden/bradley is our best pairing back (b/c jones will be too old) for the next cup
dempsey needs to play behind jozy
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:15 pm to MrWiseGuy
frick no
gooch has been garbage since his injury. absolute fricking garbage
gooch has been garbage since his injury. absolute fricking garbage
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:18 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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The ideal body type for soccer does not match up with any other US sport. 5'10 175 lb guys can't play professional basketball, football, or even baseball.
bullshite. those guys can play all those sports
do you know how many starting point guards, safeties, cornerbacks, OF, etc could be beastly athletes, soccer-wise? and i don't mean guys like AI or CP3...i mean guys playing for teams like cleveland state, mcneese, etc
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That being said 6'6 240lb guys can't play soccer.
well not 240 (due to cardio issues), but we have plenty of freaks that are 6-6 who could be great at soccer had that been their initial sport of choice.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:18 pm to Bho
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we know all of this shite, but we will pull for our guys no matter what the problems are.
Where did I infer not to pull for your team? No where. I said the US has a ton of potential athletes, but the country as a whole refuses to embrace soccer outside of while in grade school up until high school.
Get your panties out of a wad and stop being a pussy. that's how you work, right?
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:21 pm to LfcSU3520
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Where can we go if technical skill isn't stressed all the way on up?
While we lack elite technique, often times we lack the tactical awareness of good sides. Most American players lack awareness and proper positional sense.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ochocinco seems to have played soccer in his life. He probably would have been a good player. 6'1-6'2 190. And thats football shape .
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:23 pm to Geaux2002
I don't kinda buy our best players leave soccer so we're no good argument, but I also think that we have more than enough left over to be a very good national team.
We just seem to overemphasize the physical side and not the technical. The problems with this are numerous.
We just seem to overemphasize the physical side and not the technical. The problems with this are numerous.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:23 pm to crazy4lsu
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While we lack elite technique, often times we lack the tactical awareness of good sides. Most American players lack awareness and proper positional sense.
I lump the two together because it takes too long to type, sorry.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:23 pm to MrWiseGuy
when you think about the amazing numbers of pure talent we produce only to do nothing after the age of 21-22, imagine if 20% of that talent was dedicated to soccer from age 6 on....or hell, 10%
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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.i mean guys playing for teams like cleveland state, mcneese, etc
I often think about this. Guys who will never make the pros in other sports might be professionals in soccer. We desperately need to make soccer accessible to our best athletes, and when we do, don't teach them to rely too much on their athleticism. That means small pitches, heavier balls, smaller games per side. This will do two things. It will make the sport at that age a lot more fun, and it will develop technique.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:25 pm to LfcSU3520
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I lump the two together because it takes too long to type, sorry.
I see them differently. Technique is individual. Positional awareness comes from being drilled in knowing where to be when shite goes wrong. Two distinct modes of teaching. Positional awareness can be overcome by an excellent national team manager, though.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:25 pm to crazy4lsu
yeah we either need to create some sort of futsol game for americans or just basically completely adopt the dutch model
there is no way we don't have as many kids playing soccer seriously at ages 8-10 as the country of holland
there is no way we don't have as many kids playing soccer seriously at ages 8-10 as the country of holland
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
I was referring to crossover in professional sports. Each sport has their ideal body type.
I have no doubt that their are football players who were good but not quite big enough to be great who given the right set of circumstances could have been great soccer players. Same goes for basketball.
It's the responsibility of US Soccer to identify and develop those kids. We have not done a great job of doing that.
I have no doubt that their are football players who were good but not quite big enough to be great who given the right set of circumstances could have been great soccer players. Same goes for basketball.
It's the responsibility of US Soccer to identify and develop those kids. We have not done a great job of doing that.
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:27 pm to crazy4lsu
dead on man
I just keep coming back to Rossi. He left and now he's one of the world's best. What happened there?
I just keep coming back to Rossi. He left and now he's one of the world's best. What happened there?
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