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re: Gold Cup Final: United States of America vs. Mexico, 7:30 FSC, Univision

Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:02 pm to
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Anyway we can qualify for the confederations cup after this ? How did we qualify for it the last time if we didn't win the the gold cup last time.


no, only the Champions from each confederation qualify.. and its the champions from 2 years prior (the last cup), not the cup in the same year as the confeds cup..
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27835 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:02 pm to
gotcha, thanks
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:02 pm to
It's going to be a long wait to the next WC. We will need something different.
This post was edited on 6/25/11 at 10:04 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:03 pm to
bornstein was definitely teh difference

his plauge of suck infected our entire back line
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24393 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:04 pm to
frick commentators that roll their rrrrrrrs.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27835 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:05 pm to
I don't follow much. But what I saw from Lichaj and what I've seen from Timmy Chandler. I'm excited about these two. Am I mistaken in thinking these two could be our RB and LB's in the upcoming years ? How old is Cherundolo ? 31, 32 ?
This post was edited on 6/25/11 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:06 pm to
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that's b/c they have the talent/money to have superior talent, and develop that talent

it's not about competition, it's about who is on the squad



Very true, talent is a major part, but the US has athletic talent to match anyone in this country, but they simply have limited numbers of them going to soccer.

The fact, though, is that the US also can get better playing tough competition to get a better evaluation of their team like was said earlier. When you don't have the talent, you need the chemistry and coaching. You don't get that playing shitty teams all the time when it's real competition.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:06 pm to
you are not mistaken
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:07 pm to
I don't try to seem more informed, I just try to take off the one sided glasses and call shite like I see it. I do that with every sport I watch.

Asking questions, and challenging the status quo isn't a bad thing. Saying we 'got unlucky' today is fricking asinine. It fricking sucks we lost from a fan standpoint, but I'd like to fricking know why.

It doesn't make me a fricking elitist, in the same way you rooting hard doesn't make you a beer helmet wearing idiot fan.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:07 pm to
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I don't follow much. But what I saw from Lichaj and what I've seen from Timmy Chandler. I'm excited about these two. Am I mistaken in thinking these two could be our RB and LB's in the upcoming years ?

Very likely, assuming Chandler doesn't betray us and play for Germany.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27835 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

you are not mistaken


Please go on...With Adu and Agudelo, it seems like we have 4 young legs with some speed. To go with our older guys like Duece and Landy. Nice combination IMO
Posted by hondurantiger
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2007
2177 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:08 pm to
Bitching about CONCACAF is stupid . Do you not remember this team lost to panama in this tournament? The US drops games to CR and Honduras all the time
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24814 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

Very true, talent is a major part, but the US has athletic talent to match anyone in this country, but they simply have limited numbers of them going to soccer.

The fact, though, is that the US also can get better playing tough competition to get a better evaluation of their team like was said earlier. When you don't have the talent, you need the chemistry and coaching. You don't get that playing shitty teams all the time when it's real competition.


we know all of this shite, but we will pull for our guys no matter what the problems are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

but the US has athletic talent to match anyone in this country

our team is not that athletic anymore. we're pretty slow. mexico was a shite ton faster than us tonight

quote:

but they simply have limited numbers of them going to soccer.

well yeah

if our top guys played soccer we'd be very ridiculous

hell, if our 3rd level of athlete played soccer, and we maintained our current skill level, we'd be ridiculous

quote:

When you don't have the talent, you need the chemistry and coaching.

well i won't touch "coaching"

but we had developed a good chemistry. moving lichaj to LB and boca in was great. dolo going out changed our back line, and bornsucko fricked us. he fricked us hard

bob's rotations up front got a little too cute and ended up confusing us as well as mexico
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:10 pm to
what fricking country is this game being played in? I dont understand anything that gibberish spewing fricker is saying...
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:10 pm to
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but they simply have limited numbers of them going to soccer.
I'm not sure but I also doubt that youth coaching in the U.S. is as good as it is in many other countries.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:10 pm to
Anyone got a good link for tying an efficient noose?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:11 pm to
well adu is pretty slow, so

juan needs to develop his skills a good bit more

our back 6 of the future looks like

lichaj
goodson
ream
chandler

then bradley/holden as holding/defensive mids

then we have landon, dempsey, bedoya, jozy, juan, and adu to mix and match up top
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27835 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:12 pm to
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goodson


NOT A FAN
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/25/11 at 10:12 pm to
the 'we're more athletic' garbage needs to stop after today hopefully.

I don't think it matters how good the athletes are that we send out there. Where can we go if technical skill isn't stressed all the way on up?
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