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Goalkeeper thread: Iker Casillas is not currently a top keeper + best countries

Posted on 8/21/13 at 2:37 am
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 2:37 am
Diego Lopez straight up outperformed Iker and is still doing it. People thought Mourinho was just being a douche even though the numbers said that Lopez was doing better.


Manuel Neuer
Rene Adler
Diego Lopez
Gigi Buffon
Asmir Begovic
Brad Guzan
Petr Cech

in no particular order are guys I'd take ahead of him at this point in time. I haven't seen much of Thibaut Courtois and Sirigu lately but they're up there, as is Hugo Lloris. I'm not saying he's not a good keeper, but his current form is nowhere near legendary Iker that we all became accustomed to.




On another note, there is an insane amount of goalkeeping talent in European leagues right now and the U.S. is one of the best countries in terms of goalkeeping depth. I think Germany is currently number 1 with:

Neuer
Adler
Zieler
Trapp
Baumann
ter Stegen


USA:

Howard
Guzan
Rimando


Spain:

Lopez
Casillas
Reina
Valdes

Belgium:

Courtois
Mignolet
Casteels who is Hoffenheim's keeper and has looked pretty good.


Italy:

Buffon
Sirigu
Marchetti



I think the US is in the same neighborhood as the other countries listed. Hell, Guzan may be playing the best out of any keeper in the PL right now.

What other countries stack up?



Anyway, I can't sleep and I'm sure Dandy will be mad about this. Love y'all.
This post was edited on 8/21/13 at 2:42 am
Posted by xavierTIGER
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 3:16 am to
Did you purposefully leave De Gea off the Spanish list?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 3:32 am to
I got crucified for saying this not too long ago.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 3:52 am to
And freidal was still performing at a high level two years ago, and into the beginning of last season until lloris bumped him down (freidal was playing phenomenal even when lloris first joined the team)

I still think petr cech or gigi is the best keeper that I've seen in the past 7-8 years. Probably cech barely taking the edge
This post was edited on 8/21/13 at 3:57 am
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 4:13 am to
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Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 6:17 am to
To be fair, people started thinking that Mourinho was being a douche when he tried to act like no squats Adan was in better form than Casillas
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 6:29 am to
quote:

I think Germany is currently number 1 with:


Shocking.

quote:

ter Stegen


You put this clown on the list?!?!

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 6:34 am to
One mistake shouldn't discount a larger body of work.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 6:55 am to
Obviously I understand that but he will never live that down in my eyes.

Also, he is only 21. His body of work at the top level can't be that large.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 7:02 am to
Definitely not. He's still a promising prospect.
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3542 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 7:20 am to
Dutch have Vorm, Stekelenburg and Krul. Not bad
This post was edited on 8/21/13 at 7:25 am
Posted by thebert4130
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 7:33 am to
quote:

Dutch have Vorm, Stekelenburg and Krul.


Most evil sounding trio listed.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 8:59 am to
ter Stegen is 21 and has more than 75 appearances for Gladbach. He's not a finished product and he makes mistakes from time to time but he's incredibly talented and if he keeps progressing, could be at the top of the list some day.

I figured you'd have an issue with me listing Germany 1 but whatever, they're stacked at keeper.







I forgot about De Gea, yeah, Spain has a very good crop.
This post was edited on 8/21/13 at 9:02 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:02 am to
quote:

ter Stegen is 21 and has 75 appearances for Gladbach. He's not a finished product and he makes mistakes from time to time but he's incredibly talented and if he keeps progressing, could be at the top of the list some day.


I don't know anything about and obviously he doesn't suck but the one time I have seen him play that happened so when I hear "ter Stegen" I think of that and laugh.

quote:

I figured you'd have an issue with me listing Germany 1 but whatever, they're stacked at keeper.


Just giving you a hard time for starting that super long goalie thread and ending it with "Germany #1". But, like you said, you had to see that coming. I'm sure Dandy will be here soon to really spice things up.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:36 am to
So where would you put De Gea in Spain's list?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:42 am to
I think he's better than Valdes, currently playing better than Casillas. I don't know what Reina is up to.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I don't know what Reina is up to.

Liverpool loaned him to Rafa's Napoli and got Mignolet.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 10:04 am to
where would you rank Poland with Szczesny and Fabianski dominating? I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 8/21/13 at 10:05 am
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/21/13 at 10:04 am to
But, wait, Hendo...aren't we forgetting something?

Where's England on this list?












































Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 10:24 am to
Whats with the Guzan craze? I feel like his distribution is too terrible to be given the title as top PL keeper. And before anyone questions me, I saw him in person!!!!
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