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Fernando Torres

Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:07 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:07 am
Has the Golden Boot winner at any tournament ever not been on the All-Tournament team? Also Xavi was one of the four players considered for best player of the tournament? Unbelievable.
Posted by Tiger n Austin
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:09 am to
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Also Xavi was one of the four players considered for best player of the tournament? Unbelievable.


Yeah, that ball he fed a sprinting Alba on Spain's second goal was complete luck. fricking Xavi is so overrated.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:13 am to
My bad I didn't know one notable play in an entire tournament was worthy of being considered all tournament. Any of Spain's other midfielders (besides maybe Silva) Jordi Alba, probably Pique and Ramos all deserved mention over him.
Posted by Bho
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:30 am to
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My bad I didn't know one notable play


Did you honestly watch all of Spain's games?
Posted by Tiger n Austin
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:32 am to
You know nothing. He orchestrates everything.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 9:33 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:47 am to
Yea everyone, except the 2nd half of the Ireland game. That's how I know he was at best the 6th or 7th best player on the Spanish team alone.
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:49 am to
Geez
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:54 am to
Cesc, Iniesta, Alba, Alonso without question had better tournaments, not even debatable. You could make arguments for two or three others as well.
Posted by Bho
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:59 am to
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That's how I know he was at best the 6th or 7th best player on the Spanish team alone.


Ok Randy, you are a fellow Chelsea fan and I like that, but C'mon, you are not helping the rest of us out when you post stuff like this. Xavi is, was, and will be great for years.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:01 am to
Amazingly, I've got to agree with Randy. Xavi wasn't at his best until the final.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:01 am to
Sounds crazy, but if I was building a team and I could take one player from Spain. I think I may have to go with Xabi Alonso.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35833 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Xavi is, was, and will be great for years


He is great, still overrated when mentioned as an all time great, but great at what he does nontheless. However, I'm talking about the Euro 2012 tournament. There is no way he was anywhere near one of the top 4 players in that tournament. He wasn't even top four on his own team.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:03 am to
Yeah, that's crazy.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:09 am to
Who won player of the tournament?

And how did Torres win the golden boot? Did everyone else with 3 goals have fewer assists? Ronaldo had at least one.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 10:11 am
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:11 am to
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Did everyone else with 3 goals have fewer assists? Ronald had at least one.


he was tied with at least one other player, but Nando played fewer minutes. Which, oddly enough, was the next tie breaker.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35833 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Who won player of the tournament?


Iniesta

quote:

And how did Torres win the golden boot? Did everyone else with 3 goals have fewer assists? Ronaldo had at least one.


On the broadcast they mentioned Gomez as the guy he was tied with and yea Torres won by doing it in fewer minutes.
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6854 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:20 am to
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Sounds crazy, but if I was building a team and I could take one player from Spain. I think I may have to go with Xabi Alonso.


Give me Iniesta all day everyday.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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33034 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:51 am to
What a weird tie breaker. If Torres hadn't scored that goal, then they would have to go back and figure out if Dzagoev or Mandzukic had been subbed out earlier in the first round games.

Six guys had 3 goals (Gomez, Balotelli, Ronaldo, and Torres as well), so the best tie-breaker imo is assists.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:58 am to
I may have phrased that poorly.

It's Goals, Assists, Minutes Played
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:00 am to
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Six guys had 3 goals (Gomez, Balotelli, Ronaldo, and Torres as well), so the best tie-breaker imo is assists.



They did that.. Torres & Gomez both had 1 assist..

thus the need for another tie breaker.
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