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Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:17 am
Soccer is a sport in which there are not stats for 90% of what goes on during a game.
*I did a really poor job of communicating my message. I meant to convey that 90% of the game can't be accurately captured by stats like corners, shots, etc.
*In the case of a sever mismatch, obviously if one team has 20 more shots and 10 more shots on goal, and 15 more corners than the other team than they mean something.
*I did a really poor job of communicating my message. I meant to convey that 90% of the game can't be accurately captured by stats like corners, shots, etc.
*In the case of a sever mismatch, obviously if one team has 20 more shots and 10 more shots on goal, and 15 more corners than the other team than they mean something.
This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 11:31 am
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Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:20 am to raw dog
False
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:20 am to raw dog
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Soccer is a sport in which there are not stats for 90% of what goes on during a game.
false.
Possession is calculated all game.
every pass, every tackle, literally the wholge game is being logged in the form of statistics.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:21 am to raw dog
Well considering passing is what happens 90% of the game, that is completely false
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:23 am to Tennessee Jed
*Public, common statistics (you know that I am talking about goals and assists)
*I think that there is an argument that would severely weaken the "tackles in a game" statistic.
*Would like to see the correlation of the answers to this question to the amount of experience playing the game.
*I think that there is an argument that would severely weaken the "tackles in a game" statistic.
*Would like to see the correlation of the answers to this question to the amount of experience playing the game.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:23 am to raw dog
False. There are MANY stats for everything. We just don't get bombarded with meaningless graphics during the games with that information.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:26 am to BraveTiger225
Absolutely false. Movement, dribbles, positioning, passing, tackles, interceptions, and 50-50's are just some things that are tracked all game. The stats are not easily accessed, but Opta has pretty comprehensive statistics.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:27 am to raw dog
If the statement is implying that shots (on goal), corners, possession, tackles, distance traveled, passes completed and attempted, goals, saves, and fouls is only 10% of the game then yes I would say it's false.
I'm sure I missed a few stat categories but I think you can see what I'm getting at.
I'm sure I missed a few stat categories but I think you can see what I'm getting at.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:29 am to rdw1690
I don't think shots, shots on goal, corners, etc. are as important as they are interpreted.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:30 am to raw dog
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Soccer is a sport in which there are not stats for 90% of what goes on during a game.
For reasons others have pointed out, I would disagree with the statement.
However, I would change it to say something like, on the surface 90% of stats kept in soccer are meaningless.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:31 am to raw dog
Haha that's one of the most recorded statistic. That's saying field goal % and completion % aren't important
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:31 am to bluebarracuda
RandySavage, that is what I meant, thank you.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:32 am to RandySavage
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However, I would change it to say something like, on the surface 90% of stats kept in soccer are meaningless.
Isn't that for all sports too?
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:33 am to bluebarracuda
I don't think so. I think in basketball and football stats say a lot. A lot more than soccer at least.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:34 am to raw dog
You can look at the box score of a baseball, football, or basketball game and tell who the best players were and who the most impactful players were. Not the case in soccer.
This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:37 am to raw dog
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You can look at the box score of a baseball, football, or basketball game and tell who the best players were and who the most impactful players were. Not the case in soccer.
I disagree. But it depends on what kind of box score you're looking at...how in-depth it is.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:38 am to WarSlamEagle
In basketball for instance, I think the significant stats that tell you a lot about the game are minutes played, points scored, assists, and rebounds.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:39 am to raw dog
Baseball is the clearest and probably should be thrown out of this conversation considering how statistic-intensive it is.
This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:41 am to raw dog
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In basketball for instance, I think the significant stats that tell you a lot about the game are minutes played, points scored, assists, and rebounds.
Why would the same not hold true for soccer? You could find out minutes played, passes attempted, passes completed, tackles attempted, tackles completed, total shots, total shots on target, total shots off target, goals, assists, key passes, etc. that would give you a pretty good understanding of the significance a single player had on a match.
But I know what you're saying. Off the ball movement means more in soccer than any other sport and there is no way to quantify that.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 11:42 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Yes, I think that there is a tremendous difference in the meaningfulness of points,assists, and rebounds vs. passes completed,tackles attempted and completed, total shots, etc.
*And minutes played will be the same for every player on the field but a maximum of 6, usually closer to 2 or 3.
*And minutes played will be the same for every player on the field but a maximum of 6, usually closer to 2 or 3.
This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 11:45 am
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