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re: Cristiano Ronaldo wins Ballon d'Or - Ribery got screwed
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:33 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:33 pm to hendersonshands
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Takes a special kind of idiot to judge a soccer player solely on goals.
I'm not. I'm saying that the few stats that he's good on (passes, assists, dribbles,runs) are bested by a number of other midfielders and that, for all of those runs and passes (and possession that Bayern had), he has a low number of assists and connected crosses. That does not mean he's a poor player, he's just not someone who should be up for the award for best player in the world.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:43 pm to TheIrishFro
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which is why giving one award for all types of soccer players is idiotic. Can you really compare the best defender to the best striker? 99% of the time this award will go to goal-scorers but ignore those who set up the goals and completely ignore those who keep goals from being scored.
Agree.
And Bhoy, it isn't just pure numbers. It's the impact the player has on the team. How the team plays with him on and off the field. Does he help out on defense, does he retain possession, does the team look different when he's in the lineup. Does he create opportunities for others, does he finish his. It can't be decided on by looking at numbers. In soccer, more so than any other sport, you need to watch games to vote on an award like this.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:47 pm to hendersonshands
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And Bhoy, it isn't just pure numbers. It's the impact the player has on the team. How the team plays with him on and off the field.
So you want it given to Messi?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:49 pm to TN Bhoy
I don't think any player in Europe changed the way his team played more than Franck Ribéry did. You'll disagree but you probably watched 5 minutes of Bayern Munich.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:51 pm to hendersonshands
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I don't think any player in Europe changed the way his team played more than Franck Ribéry did.
Check the Barca-PSG ties last season. Or Juve/Italy with and without Pirlo. Look at Spurs without Bale.
Hell, Dortmund probably beats Bayern in the UCL Final with Goetze.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:39 pm to TheIrishFro
I still think cRon was the better player this year.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:52 pm to hendersonshands
It is pretty obviously Ronaldo this year (said with extreme bias). Objectively, I still think Ronaldo was the logical choice.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 5:07 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
From his suit, looked like Messi took a wrong turn on his way to the NBA draft
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:29 pm to joey barton
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:41 pm to Dandy Lion
You'd think a man of Christiano's caliber would be able to tie his own bow tie. A clip on? What are you, five years old?
Jeez….
Jeez….
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:52 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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able to tie his own bow tie
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Cristiano
No, no I wouldn´t. I do expect that someone would tie it for him, however.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:14 pm to hendersonshands
Jupp won manager of the year, be content. Be content.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:34 pm to TheIrishFro
quote:fricking Cannavaro won one, if I´m not mistaken. There goes your theory (out the window).
which is why giving one award for all types of soccer players is idiotic. Can you really compare the best defender to the best striker? 99% of the time this award will go to goal-scorers but ignore those who set up the goals and completely ignore those who keep goals from being scored.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:44 pm to Dandy Lion
Yeah it was 05 or 06 or something. Still, how often does that happen?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:32 pm to Dandy Lion
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This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 8:36 am
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:43 pm to TheIrishFro
quote:2006 was a bad year.
the 1%
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:47 pm to Dandy Lion
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This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 8:35 am
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:55 pm to TheIrishFro
Exactly. It could have been a Titi year, but I don´t think his year was as good as previous, and the phoenix like resurgence of ´I´ve seen a vision´ Zidane overshadowed him.
I think Ronaldinho had a good season as well.
I said fricking Cannavaro, because this guy is a system defender. The times he was left nude at RM are innumerous. Granted, playing CB for RM is a hellatious task, but he wasn´t any better than any whomever roaming around Spain.
I think Ronaldinho had a good season as well.
I said fricking Cannavaro, because this guy is a system defender. The times he was left nude at RM are innumerous. Granted, playing CB for RM is a hellatious task, but he wasn´t any better than any whomever roaming around Spain.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:55 am to Dandy Lion
Ronaldo was the better player. He is the better player. He had the better season. Ribery is amazing but he's not on Ronaldo's level. It'd be like Tony Parker winning MVP over Lebron if the Spurs had a better record and won the title
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