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re: Could a high school boys soccer team beat a World Cup women's team?
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:06 pm to LfcSU3520
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:06 pm to LfcSU3520
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Arsenal, Barca, Spain...etc. can run teams into the ground by passing around them. The ball moves faster than you can run.
I was just wondering if there were any women teams who were good enough to keep possession and frustrate guys trying to be physical with them. But on the whole, I see what you guys are saying that the guys would just be too much physically
even if there was a women's team who could pass like that (there isn't), all the men would have to do is what i said. send 7 back and 3 up and just play long ball
there is no way that women's team scores on the men's without a ton of luck, and i'd give the men better than even odds of scoring simply by being bigger/faster/stronger
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Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:08 pm to glassman
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St Aug would destroy UConn's womens team. Like 90-40.
it would be worse than that unless they let up
if the men's team has a male who is 6-3 or taller and has any sort of athletic ability, he will destroy any women's post player
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:08 pm to diddydirtyAubie
No.
A WC women's team would have those boys questioning their manhood within the first 10 minutes.
A WC women's team would have those boys questioning their manhood within the first 10 minutes.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:11 pm to glassman
Sure they would. It's also basketball. A game played in tight spaces, where size/raw athleticism plays a bigger role. Not to mention he's comparing high school to women's college basketball when the subject is high school to women's world class soccer.
If people really think Jesuit High in New Orleans can beat our women's world cup team then they haven't played men's at a high level and also played with top level women on the pitch during a pick up type game.
The girls would be so technically clean they'd just pass around the boys.
If people really think Jesuit High in New Orleans can beat our women's world cup team then they haven't played men's at a high level and also played with top level women on the pitch during a pick up type game.
The girls would be so technically clean they'd just pass around the boys.
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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even if there was a women's team who could pass like that (there isn't), all the men would have to do is what i said. send 7 back and 3 up and just play long ball
there is no way that women's team scores on the men's without a ton of luck, and i'd give the men better than even odds of scoring simply by being bigger/faster/stronger
i think you're forgetting that we're discussing high school teams at this point. Not some national u-17s. Just a HS team.
I would say there are probably some really good HS teams that could keep a good game with the better women's WC teams, but most HS teams would prob get battered.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:12 pm to udtiger
I think the real question is, would a womens team playing against Bornstein completely abuse him like everyone else does?
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:13 pm to LfcSU3520
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i think you're forgetting that we're discussing high school teams at this point. Not some national u-17s. Just a HS team.
i'm talking about playing bunkering on D and then just kicking the shite out of the ball long and having the guys run under it
they won't be able to cross it in
and their passing will end outside the final 1/3
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:16 pm to LfcSU3520
The best high school boys are playing in Academies and most likely not playing HS soccer. So even the best HS teams don't have the quality they use to ... Just to throw another wrinkle out there.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
and I'm still talking about shitty HS sports.
Bunkering isn't as easy as just standing there. The field is big, and you still have to be really organized and disciplined to play against a team way more skilled than you are with that strategy.
And just saying 'long balls' doesn't equal goals. They'd have to be really fast, and even then somewhat skilled to be able to link their play and score.
I think you're kinda over simplifying here.
Bunkering isn't as easy as just standing there. The field is big, and you still have to be really organized and disciplined to play against a team way more skilled than you are with that strategy.
And just saying 'long balls' doesn't equal goals. They'd have to be really fast, and even then somewhat skilled to be able to link their play and score.
I think you're kinda over simplifying here.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:17 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
i wanted to mention that earlier, but the argument seemed to have gone to most hs teams, so it didn't seem necessary.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
So what if they can't cross. Slow, they would just combine at the top of the box and make dynamic runs no high school team knows how to defend. By the way, they could also draw the bunker out by possessing in front of them, then carve the boys up.
This post was edited on 6/26/11 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:20 pm to LfcSU3520
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I think you're kinda over simplifying here.
the athletic difference is massive. i'm talking about a group of average joes with maybe 1-2 somewhat athletic guys on the team
i'd say the men will also average 3-4 inches taller in the field
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and their passing will end outside the final 1/3
is this a 5 a side field or something?
Even when team's bunker, there's still a lot of space. Pretty sure these teams could exploit it
I'll give you basketball because the physicality is SO much more important there, but I just don't think it would matter that much here if going up against players who are far your superiors in technical and positional play.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:21 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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By the way, they could also draw the bunker out by possessing in front of them
i'd let them do that
keep 2-3 guys waiting to snowbird and put 7-8 back
shorten the field. make it small. create a field where superior size and athleticism will be more apparent
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:23 pm to LfcSU3520
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Even when team's bunker, there's still a lot of space.
i'd keep the back line at least 3-5 yards away from the goal and keep all the defenders as wide as the box. nobody goes outside of the box
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the athletic difference is massive. i'm talking about a group of average joes with maybe 1-2 somewhat athletic guys on the team
i'd say the men will also average 3-4 inches taller in the field
The boy's would get pressured and technical ability would let them down. Clearing the ball and playing chase is stupid soccer and the girl's would cut it out with ease.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'd keep the back line at least 3-5 yards away from the goal
You have just failed every USSF and NSCAA coaching course.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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some? i'd say most in america in divisions with school populations over 1,000 would beat any college basketball team in history
I was trying to be nice.
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:25 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Clearing the ball and playing chase is stupid soccer
in a normal game? sure
and i'm not saying the % of success would be good
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and the girl's would cut it out with ease.
how? as long as the boys have a guy who can clear it past midfield, the girls would have to keep 4-5 players WAAY back at all times so that they didn't get outrun/boxed out of the long balls
that takes out their attack
Posted on 6/26/11 at 9:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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keep 2-3 guys waiting to snowbird and put 7-8 back
smart backline will get 2 guys offside everytime. Also, anything over the top the GK will cut out at the WC level.
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