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re: Chile vs Brazil-Round of 16

Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:11 pm to
Outside of the phantom handball, he called it great
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:12 pm to
His trapped it with his bicep. Was pretty clear om the firzt replay
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Great game. Ref sucked.


Huh? So many flops, especially in the first half. Then Chile just stopped attacking. This game kind of sucked for me.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Outside of the phantom handball, he called it great
The handball was a great call.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:13 pm to
I feel like if ur Chile wouldnt you have rather lost playin ur style and attacking than lose on the luck of the draw in a shootout
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Outside of the phantom handball, he called it great



I actually don't think he did. He set the tempo wrong, so we got a shite ton of fouls which disrupted the flow of the game, and gave out yellow cards wrongly.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:14 pm to
Maybe you're right. I didn't see it on the initial replay but I haven't seen it since then. I'll catch it on WCT
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:15 pm to
Anytime you get PKs in a knock out imo it makes for a great game.

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:16 pm to
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I honestly don't see it being a yellow card worthy handball. If it hadn't been called I don't think there would have been any protests. It hits his chest as much as his arm, and hits it where his shoulder meets his chest.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11234 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:16 pm to
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He set the tempo wrong, so we got a shite ton of fouls which disrupted the flow of the game, and gave out yellow cards wrongly.


Again, the players were flopping all over the place. I saw two different times where someone just jumped and flipped in the air to make it look like there was hard contact when they weren't even touched. Plus a couple times where the player just threw his own feet out from under himself to make it look like he was taken down. This World Cup has been pretty good overall with not having much diving but this game was one of the few bad ones.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Anytime you get PKs in a knock out imo it makes for a great game.


It was most definitely dramatic..doesn't make it great. Flops and Chile basically quitting at the end turned me off.
Posted by Senora Ramos
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:18 pm to
That neymar one where he just jumped into the air was just
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:18 pm to
I'm not talking about the flopping. Webb called fouls inconsistently, and often at the first sign of contact. Sanchez earned at least two fouls that were just jockeying for the ball. The persistent fouling increased as the game went on because Webb was so inconsistent in the first half. Not a great game from him.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:19 pm to
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It hits his chest as much as his arm


So you're saying that it DID hit his arm but should NOT be a handball? Come on man..
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:21 pm to
It certainly isn't a yellow card worthy handball. And top of the shoulder is not usually called a handball. It's a super narrow interpretation of the rule, and I straight up don't think that they would have been that many protests if it went the other way.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11234 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:22 pm to
You can't just throw out the flops. The ref has to distinguish between what are fouls and what are players faking fouls. That definitely affects his calls throughout the game. If you want a fairly called game, you have to play fair.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:22 pm to
It hit his bicep.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99854 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:22 pm to
Flopping is just to much of the latin teams games so yeah I agree with that.

I just love extra time and pks.

That ball of the cross bar by the Chile player was interesting

Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11234 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:24 pm to
Maybe not yellow card worthy. But it's a handball and shouldn't have been a goal.

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And top of the shoulder is not usually called a handball.


You just acknowledged it hit his arm and chest. Don't change to fit your argument.

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I straight up don't think that they would have been that many protests if it went the other way.


This is part of the problem with flopping. Just because people complain one way or the other doesn't change the fact that he committed a foul. He used his arm to control the ball and that's illegal. End of story.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:24 pm to
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You can't just throw out the flops. The ref has to distinguish between what are fouls and what are players faking fouls. That definitely affects his calls throughout the game. If you want a fairly called game, you have to play fair.



You have no idea how often Webb calls games inconsistently. He started the game swallowing the whistle, which makes players think they can get away with a lot more than they should. The way he calls games results in more flopping.
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