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cigsmcgee
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re: Chelsea 2017/2018 Season Thread
Its really troubling how awful Cesc and Bakayoko have looked since Kante went down.

Willian has been abysmal of late too.


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We have known Cesc is worthless in a midfield two for a long time. It's even worse when the guy next to him is young and still trying to find his footing with the team. I still can't believe we let the safety net of Matic go when all we had lined up was a failed Ox bid and Drinkwater.

I can 100% see us getting smacked around by United and Conte being gone next week. Would be so Chelsea.


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Seriously what is it about this club now? It's not normal to win the league by like 20 points one season and then be completely worthless and look like we don't even give a crap the next and it's becoming a regular thing with us under multiple world class managers. WTF? Frick


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We won the league last year because we had a stronger squad than just about everybody else (and a stronger squad compared to what we have this year) and were focusing on one competition.

This season our squad is a little weaker from top to bottom. We are stretched thin by multiple competitions.

More importantly, everybody around us improved a lot. City has had more time to adjust to what Pep wants to do. They also outspent just about everybody over the last 12 months. United is adjusting to Mou. They got a legit striker, and we gave them the one thing they were missing. Tottenham didn't do a ton in the transfer market, but their core players are so young, and they just improve every year because it's natural.

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I don't know why it's so hard to see how successful we were last year and say "Hey, this manager and group of players is good. Let's keep just about everybody together and back the manager financially so we can challenge domestically and in Europe."

However, our response continues to be "Hey, we just won the league in pretty comfortable fashion. Let's thin out our squad, selling key players to league rivals. Also, let's sit around and not do a ton while all of our rivals dramatically improve."
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Okay, so I missed the second half live. I'm rewatching, and this is the worst awareness/positioning I've ever seen in my life. Like this makes the worst Arsene Wenger setup look like the most tactically aware/resolute Juventus team you've ever seen. This is something you don't expect to see even in a pick up game at your local park.

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Haha, that was when I stopped watching.


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cigsmcgee
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Good god. Its like theyre trying to get Conte fired.


RandySavage
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Maybe they were all on team Costa?


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I'm just baffled. We've done ourselves no favors with our transfer business, but we started this game playing Dave, not a guy you want to play at RWB, at RWB. Then you have to change the back three again in addition to having the guy who shields your back line sitting out, leaving Cesc Fabregas to provide protection.

Like this is Maria/Michael/Roman's fault. It's also Conte's fault. It's also on the players. Like those photos are something I know Conte wasn't preaching. Conte will probably have to resist physically harming those three guys when he sees the photos.

They just don't seem to have the drive they did last year. It's just basic stuff they're failing to do on the field.


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cigsmcgee
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Maybe they were all on team Costa?


Thats my feeling. I think the Costa situation is going to be Contes "Eva Carneiro" moment unless we reel off some wins this month.

Its no secret Diego was pretty universally liked in the locker room. Having a class clown around to absorb ire and punishment is always handy too.



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Morata is a fine footballer. But if he's not playing well (like last night), he shows absolutely no fight. Even when we were getting killed, Costa was always going to run his socks off, bully CBs, charge down the GK. He single-handedly grabbed our team by the scruff of the neck and willed us to victory at times.

That Costa quote from the biography about him is the most perfect picture of him and what we're missing:

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According to the story, when Costa was introduced to John Terry, Branislav Ivanovic and Gary Cahill, the physical forward told them: I go to war. You come with me.


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Costa was always going to run his socks off, bully CBs, charge down the GK. He single-handedly grabbed our team by the scruff of the neck and willed us to victory at times.


When things were going well sure, but he was ridiculously awful during that three month spell that got Jose fired. He thought he was a winger and we never had anyone in the box.


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I think Costa wasn't in the box because he had literally zero service and was determined to make things happen by himself. Cesc and Hazard both fell off the face of the earth. Costa was the only one trying for large parts of that season. He almost single-handedly got us back in that Champions League tie against PSG before he went off injured. When he went off, we had no hope.

I know you hate Costa, but that dude played harder than anybody and played like he cared more than anybody, no matter what the score line was.


RandySavage
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No I'm not really disagreeing and I obviously loved that part of his game but I think it's revisionist history to act like he didn't have his wtf moments during our last terrible spell.


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So two members of the Chelsea loan army get called up to the England Sr quad but are still not good enough for Conte


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Well, we've pretty much learned Conte doesn't get what he wants, so even if he wanted them around, it wouldn't matter. If Conte got what he wanted, you guys would be sitting in fifth or sixth because you'd have nobody to anchor the midfield.


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Do you even Scott McGOATminay bruv?


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No I'm not really disagreeing and I obviously loved that part of his game but I think it's revisionist history to act like he didn't have his wtf moments during our last terrible spell.


I mean, everybody did for sure. I just feel like Costa actually tried most of the time, though. Hazard/Fabregas/etc had completely mailed it in and never tried at all. Willian was the one guy who actually played well and tried every game. I would probably put Costa and Dave right behind him.


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Do you even Scott McGOATminay bruv?


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Seething Antonio Conte lays down law to Chelsea players in brutal dressing down after Roma defeat


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Antonio Conte gave his Chelsea players the full hairdryer treatment during an angry inquest into their second-half surrender in Rome and warned it can never happen again.

Ahead of Sunday’s visit of Manchester United, head coach Conte made it clear that any players who do not follow his orders will be left out and he made examples of some of the worst offenders.

Barely anybody escaped the dressing down and even Kenedy, who was an unused substitute during the 3-0 Champions League defeat to Roma, received a lecture after being caught yawning during the meeting at Chelsea’s Cobham training ground.


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