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re: Best 11 for USMNT
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:54 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:54 pm to hendersonshands
That was the plan in the WC until Jozy got hurt. Bradley and Jones as the double pivot with Demosey in the hole, Jozy up top. It worked in the warm ups with less talent. I'm not sure your point.
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:02 pm to hendersonshands
I agree. I just think Dempsey's time is done with the national team.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:02 pm to HottyToddy7
Bradley & Jones is not the same thing as Bradley & Nagbe.
You're basically setting up a midfield with 1 midfielder. That 11 can't handle a counter attack nor can it handle an effective number 10 on the opposing team without completely stretching out your team and leaving space all over the place.
You're basically setting up a midfield with 1 midfielder. That 11 can't handle a counter attack nor can it handle an effective number 10 on the opposing team without completely stretching out your team and leaving space all over the place.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:08 pm to pvilleguru
I think it should probably be done as a starter. Our biggest issue in midfield is we don't have a real 6. Bradley and Jones both want to be an 8 but both of them are athletic enough to still play a big defensive role. Ideally we'd have a 6 with Bradley as the 8 and Nagbe as the 10. Jones and Bradley have played together enough to kind of figure it out on their own, God knows Klinsmann isn't figuring it out.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:21 pm to hendersonshands
I don't get Dempsey as a negative. He is still one of our most technical players and until he begins to tank on the reg he isn't done. Dempsey is like 10th on our list of issues right now.
Why can't Jones be 6, Bradley as 8, Nagbe as 10?
Why can't Jones be 6, Bradley as 8, Nagbe as 10?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:24 pm to hendersonshands
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I'm not trying to be rude or mean but the lineup posted in the OP is completely awful.
This isn't Fifa lol
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:25 pm to LuckyTiger
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I don't get Dempsey as a negative.
Whoever we use as the 10 will need to be blessed to drop back and help on defense. Dempsey either can't or won't do that, which leaves a lot of ground for the other CMs to cover. At this point, Nagbe can do everything Clint does but also does things that Clint won't do. At this point, I just don't know where you can start Dempsey where there isn't someone that can do a better job.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:26 pm to LuckyTiger
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Why can't Jones be 6, Bradley as 8, Nagbe as 10?
Jones won't stick around as a 6, Bradley is more likely to do that. I have those 3 in my lineup because I think they're our best choices. I don't think Bradley, Nagbe, Dempsey works against good teams though.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:26 pm to loJic IVOK
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A 4-1-3-2? We'd give up 5 goals a game.
That is the ideal diamond midfield. Lets fullbacks to get up the wings. CB's and CDM essentially morph into a 3 person back line while attacking. Gives basically 5 backs on defense.
It is the best system out there, if run right.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
Dempsey is still our best finisher.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
He can be very helpful as a late sub if you need a goal and have been having a lot of possesion.
Bring him on in the 70'-75' and tell him to run his arse off for 15-20 minutes.
Bring him on in the 70'-75' and tell him to run his arse off for 15-20 minutes.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:32 pm to LuckyTiger
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Dempsey is still our best finisher.
I don't agree, but let's say he is. You can still only finish if you get the ball near the box.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:41 pm to pvilleguru
That's why you have Nagbe and Pulisic.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:45 pm to LuckyTiger
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That's why you have Nagbe and Pulisic.
But because Dempsey is playing the 10, we will get dominated in possession against any decent team. His unwillingness to help on defense will leave too much space.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:47 pm to pvilleguru
Play Dempsey as pure striker, let Nagbe be 10.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:49 pm to LuckyTiger
That won't work well. If we're going with a lone striker, Altidore would be better than Dempsey. Which goes back to my previous point about there being a better player at every position.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:51 pm to hendersonshands
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God knows Klinsmann isn't figuring it out.
His instructions to Pulisic: "go be dangerous and do your thing"
I missed the first hour, but checking the lineups now I see we trotted out Jones, Beckerman, Bradley, and Zardes, and Zusi to start? I'm amazed we didn't dominate the game with that midfield.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:51 pm to pvilleguru
What on green earth makes you think Altidore is better than Dempsey?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:55 pm to LuckyTiger
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What on green earth makes you think Altidore is better than Dempsey?
The fact that Altidore is our best forward and our best at hold up play. And the fact that he's actually a forward.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:57 pm to 5thTiger
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That is the ideal diamond midfield. Lets fullbacks to get up the wings. CB's and CDM essentially morph into a 3 person back line while attacking. Gives basically 5 backs on defense.
It is the best system out there, if run right.
Diamond midfield is incredibly difficult to play. Tons of pressure on fullbacks and the 6 has to cover a ton of lateral ground. You also have to have a very technical midfield because if you lose the ball with your fullbacks high you're in trouble.
We don't have the technical or tactical ability to play a diamond midfield.
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