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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:11 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:11 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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Oh Jesus. Semantics.
If you're going to make a conservative case, you don't start out talking about government funding. Government funding is horseshite. It's taxpayer funding. They take from us, in staggering amounts. If you want to set a conservative's teeth on edge, talk to them about government funding.
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And there are plenty of functions of the federal government in which utilizing tax dollars to fund can still be "conservative." While our fed is bloated and should be chopped off at the knees, it's not as if it should have zero function.
And when it is chopped off at the knees, then we can talk about the conservative case for additional taxpayer funding of NIH research. Let's not forget to fix big pharma's scheme to have the American taxpayer subsidize medicine for the rest of the world before we talk in earnest.
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:18 pm to bmy
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But you can't read so I'm sure it's just an innocent mistake
Logically, unless the optimal talent for your organization just so happens to be perfectly distributed for you needs and timing across EVERY demographic, this goal as stated sacrifices talent for demographics.
So, of course, you’re wrong.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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“non-rivalrous”
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“non-excludable”
This isn't a conservative or liberal case for government funding. This is just the basic definition of a "public good." And yes - most reasonable people agree that the government has some role in financing research and activities that the private sector will never support.
Sadly, our watered down education system doesn't teach these elementary concepts.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:26 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Logically, unless the optimal talent for your organization just so happens to be perfectly distributed for you needs and timing across EVERY demographic, this goal as stated sacrifices talent for demographics.
So, of course, you’re wrong.
The fact that you think you made a logical argument here is cracking me up
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:32 pm to troyt37
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If you're going to make a conservative case, you don't start out talking about government funding.
I'm sorry you are not smart enough (or maybe too sensitive an individual) to understand what people were talking about. Does anyone here think that the fed's budget comes from somewhere other than taxpayers pockets? No? Then bitching about it is pointless. Everyone else who ignored the verbiage because it has yet to be confused for something that its not, can carry on with their panties un-bunched. You should pluck yours out.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:39 pm to bmy
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The fact that you think you made a logical argument here is cracking me up
The fact that you are such a zealot or idiot that you can’t understand it, is cracking me up. If you want the most talented people from every demographic, instead of the most talented people, you’re into affirmative action more than science.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:48 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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I'm sorry you are not smart enough (or maybe too sensitive an individual) to understand what people were talking about. Does anyone here think that the fed's budget comes from somewhere other than taxpayers pockets? No? Then bitching about it is pointless. Everyone else who ignored the verbiage because it has yet to be confused for something that its not, can carry on with their panties un-bunched. You should pluck yours out.
It’s the leftist language of Washington DC, in a supposedly conservative case for more funding. There is meaning in the language that is used. This conservative case is chock full of leftist diatribe, and apparently it wads your panties up, having someone point that out. Illustrating the fact that what is supposedly a conservative case for more funding is replete with leftist language and bullshite is not pointless.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:52 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
Endowments do help fund research. NIH has salary caps and never pay total budgeted amount.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:54 pm to troyt37
NIH does not fund “big” private research and gives the vast majority of funding strictly on merit.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 1:41 am
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:10 pm to troyt37
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The fact that you are such a zealot or idiot that you can’t understand it, is cracking me up. If you want the most talented people from every demographic, instead of the most talented people, you’re into affirmative action more than science.
They will recruit talented people. From where? From every demographic.
Rich, poor, old, young, white, black, asian, male, female, etc etc.
You would probably get lumped into the demographic of people who can't read
(god damnit what a typo)This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 7:59 am
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:10 am
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:02 pm to efrad
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How about this: it's MY money, and I will choose where it goes, not YOU or any of the politicians you anoint. YOU don't have a claim to any portion of MY PAYCHECK no matter how loudly you scream "government funds will be used responsibly this time I swear"
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:12 pm to efrad
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How about this: it's MY money, and I will choose where it goes
As long as you are okay with you or your family not receiving any of the benefit from the NIH funded discoveries.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:58 pm to StripedSaint
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:10 am
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:05 pm to bmy
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They will recruit talented people. From where? From every demographic.
Rich, poor, old, young, white, black, asian, male, female, etc etc.
You would probably lumped into the demographic of people who can't read
You are the embodiment of purposefully ignorant. The fact that they are even mentioning demographics regarding recruiting talent for scientific research, pretty much tells the sane everything they need to know.
If your life depends on it, are you happier with your team of doctors being the most diverse, or the most talented? I have no doubt, socialist democrat shite-eaters such as yourself would use something like this to claim racism, but if my life depends on medical research done at the NIH, I want the most talented, and I don’t give a shite if they’re green. They can shove their demographics.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Nope.
Let’s start with the basics: ... public good — something that can only be provided by the government.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:42 pm to efrad
With all due respect, but you have zero idea how NIH chooses what to fund. Zero.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:49 am to StripedSaint
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:10 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:20 am to efrad
Wrong, but there is no convincing you and your idea of an “unelected bureaucrat”. I simply suggest you research the topic of funding, subjects it funds and the greater benefit of the NIH. The discoveries it has funded has almost certainly helped someone in your family or will in the future.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 2:21 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:44 am to StripedSaint
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