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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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Let’s start with the basics: NIH’s research is an important, beneficial activity that the private sector simply will not do. Like clean air and national defense, advancing our understanding of nature is a public good — something that can only be provided by the government.


In economic terms, such basic research is “non-rivalrous” in that individuals’ understanding of, say, the structure of DNA does not prohibit others from having the same knowledge. It’s also “non-excludable” because once scientists have made a discovery about the nature of the universe, they have no way of stopping others from using that knowledge for practical purposes. These realities make the incentive structure such that the private market will not lead to adequate amounts of research on its own.

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Turbeauxdog
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
How much money goes to trans and gay horse shit?


BigJim
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
100% agree with the article. Basic scientific research is an appropriate expenditure of tax dollars.

I have to hope that even near-anarchist conservatives would have about 1000 things they would want to cut first before basic scientific research.


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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
New
Iberia
Haircut research? Sign me up baw.


Mickey Goldmill
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
idk why but this reminded me of the episode of Parks and Rec when Ron goes on his tirade about the publicly subsidized mini golf course lol.

I agree with the general premise of what you quoted though.


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Gaspergou202
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
Great stuff.
But not until we are no longer running deficits!

Cut NPR, Planned Parenthood, Climate crap etc. If we have surplus start paying off debt and throw some towards a Leaner and Meaner NIH.


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udtiger
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
I have no problem funding NIH and other academic studies/research for actual important shite.

No frogs on cocaine or mating habits of aborigines in the 1600s


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timdonaghyswhistle
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
I'm not against it, but with university endowments growing into the hundreds of billions you'd think they could give a little back.


troyt37
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
Yeah, no.

"Furthermore, a large portion of the NIH’s more practical and applied research is geared toward solving medical problems, such as the tropical disease Leishmaniasis, that cause enormous human suffering but that may not be economically attractive to treat. For instance, those afflicted with the disease may not have high enough incomes to make it profitable to develop treatments, or the timeline for developing effective treatments might far exceed what private companies can reasonably tolerate."

"This is where public support comes in, by making the long-term investments to deliver the foundational research that others — including private companies — can use to develop and bring effective treatments to market."

"Like any big agency, the NIH can certainly do things better. Efforts to direct more funding toward younger researchers (who historically have made the bulk of scientific discoveries), recruit more talented people from every demographic group into the sciences, and place an even stronger emphasis on basic research — along with other high-risk, high-reward projects that only the government can do on a significant scale — are all in order."



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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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New Iberia Haircut research? Sign me up baw.


OK, I've had enough of this disrespect. New Iberia is 'The Queen City on the Teche.' The word 'teche' is Injun for snake.

New Iberia was the retirement home of Joseph Jefferson, the great actor who played Rip Van Winkle.

In the 1950s you could get a nice hair cut at Mr. Sam's for $1. Mr. Sam wasn't even a Cajun. He was Italian.


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troyt37
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
Well, maybe my downvoters can explain why the taxpayer should better fund a big agency, which can certainly do things better (big government anyone?)using public support to produce research for private companies, checking all the demographic group boxes along the way (likely not merit based), for the privilege of having any private enterprise (read big pharma) use progressive pricing to force the original funders (the American taxpayer) to subsidize the rest of the world for medicine that they can't or won't pay for?

Downvote away, but the OP asked for our thoughts. My thoughts are that if this is a "conservative" case for "government" funding of NIH research, it's "conservative" in the vein of the Bush family, or Mitt Romney, or Susan Collins. That is to say, not really conservative at all.

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. And don't talk to me about a conservative case for government funding. The government doesn't fund a damn thing. The American taxpayer does.


bmy
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
We (taxpayers) should be funding massive amounts of transparent research and that data should be easily accessible.
This post was edited on 10/9 at 3:09 pm


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bmy
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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recruit more talented people from every demographic group into the sciences


Why would anyone not want this?


Powerman
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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Why would anyone not want this?


I have no idea


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troyt37
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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quote:recruit more talented people from every demographic group into the sciences

Why would anyone not want this?


Because when it comes to government leftists, "more talented" takes a back seat to "every demographic group". Or have you been in a cave for the last 40 years?


thetempleowl
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
I agree with you. There people, as in the taxpayers should own a significant portion of that product. If we're funded one hundred percent of something, we three people should own one hundred percent of the rights to that product. We can leave that intellectual property back to drug companies to produce but they pay us.

Now is they develop a drug on their own, it would be theirs. But if they develop a drug with taxpayer money, we own whatever percent we funded it.

Or at least in my opinion that is how it should work...


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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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A conservative case for govt funding




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bmy
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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Because when it comes to government leftists, "more talented" takes a back seat to "every demographic group". Or have you been in a cave for the last 40 years?



"recruit more talented people from every demographic group into the sciences"

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"recruit more people regardless of talent from every demographic group into the sciences"

But you can't read so I'm sure it's just an innocent mistake
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troyt37
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"recruit more talented people from every demographic group into the sciences" <> "recruit more people regardless of talent from every demographic group into the sciences" But you can't read so I'm sure it's just an innocent mistake


You really are a waste of oxygen. How about this?

"recruit more talented people into the sciences"

The fact that "from every demographic group" is included is not an accident.


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YipSkiddlyDooo
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re: Your thoughts on this article? A conservative case for govt funding of NIH research
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And don't talk to me about a conservative case for government funding. The government doesn't fund a damn thing. The American taxpayer does.


Oh Jesus. Semantics.

And there are plenty of functions of the federal government in which utilizing tax dollars to fund can still be "conservative." While our fed is bloated and should be chopped off at the knees, it's not as if it should have zero function.


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