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You want to watch something infuriating?

Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:11 am
This is a report from a German public broadcasting network about the state of the German Bundeswehr. Basically they're acknowledging everything that people like Trump have been bitching about and calling them out for. It's the culmination of decades of ignoring their required NATO defense spending and relying on US to be their national defense. Now they're saying that they're really in a bind because they've given too much of their equipment to Ukraine. And guess who's almost certainly going to be footing the bill and/or giving them equipment...

frick these krauts. Let the wolves have them.

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Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:14 am to
Why can't, won't Germany fund it's own rearmament? Our gifting them is dubious.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6547 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:16 am to
That is why Poland has been working on arming themselves to the teeth. They know that none of their Western European allies have been doing their part and if something happens, they are going to have to stand on their own for as long as possible.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:18 am to
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Why can't, won't Germany fund it's own rearmament? Our gifting them is dubious.


They were allowed to slide on their required spending because they knew the US would do their fighting for them and no one in DC had the balls to call them out.

They're scrambling now, but it'll be years before they even begin to make any changes. Hilariously, in the middle of things like a basic ammo shortage, they decided to adopt a new standard issue rifle.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260785 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:19 am to
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That is why Poland has been working on arming themselves to the teeth


Yep, ramping up their defense spending to become more like a superpower.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:20 am to
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Yep, ramping up their defense spending to become more like a superpower.


And remember, Trump calling the Germans out on this glaring problem was spun as him trying to break up NATO
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5914 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:26 am to
Our North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies have been ripping off America in trade while also relying on American taxpayers to pay their defense bills for decades. President Trump’s pressure on them to pay their fair share for defense is the right call and embodies his America First agenda.

“The United States is spending far more on NATO than any other Country. This is not fair, nor is it acceptable,” President Donald Trump tweeted.

“On top of this the European Union has a Trade Surplus of $151 Million with the United States, with big trade barriers on U.S. goods. NO!” he continued.

This is especially egregious considering Germany claims it needs protection from Putin — all the while buying large amounts of gas from Russia and, thus, helping fund the very potential and potent adversary. This is, in a word, insane.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20004 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:29 am to
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Why can't, won't Germany fund it's own rearmament? Our gifting them is dubious.


Because Hitler, you Trumper you.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28926 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:32 am to
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And remember, Trump calling the Germans out on this glaring problem was spun as him trying to break up NATO




i would have been ok with him breaking up NATO.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7943 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:33 am to
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Now they're saying that they're really in a bind because they've given too much of their equipment to Ukraine.

Putin amassing 500,000 troops on the Ukraine border. They are going to have such and easy run through Germany to the Rhine.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:43 am to
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Putin amassing 500,000 troops on the Ukraine border. They are going to have such and easy run through Germany to the Rhine.


This whole story, including Germany relying on Russia for basically all their energy, shows just how little they really feared Russia.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:00 am to
This is an excellent opportunity to force more spending by the NATO members and for the US to lower the burden of Europe's defense on American taxpayers.

Biden should sell for a profit enough arms to equip the German army.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:04 am to
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Putin amassing 500,000 troops on the Ukraine border. They are going to have such and easy run through Germany to the Rhine.


I think what the Russia-Ukraine war shows us so far is that Russia isn't capable of overrunning or running through any country at this point.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:13 am
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