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Would europe be different if they were allowed to have guns?

Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:58 pm
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4041 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:58 pm
If yes, what would they have done? Theyd still be pusses.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39618 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:10 pm to
They vote out their freedom willingly and hand it to Government; why would they want guns to defend something they don’t want. Pretty much half of our population is beginning to believe the same way. DEI as a virtuous and just idea is persuasive in the feeling/abstract realm. Albeit herding cats is highly problematic.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23663 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:14 pm to
Nah... for centuries they have lived under a culture and social hierarchy which served the "nobles"....
Sure, some would take up arms, but most would just devolve back into what their subjection to "the crown" ....IMHO
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18734 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:17 pm to
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They vote out their freedom willingly and hand it to Government; why would they want guns to defend something they don’t want.


This is why guns won’t make a difference at the moment. The pendulum hasn’t swung far enough.

Once it does - usually through government tyranny - the citizens will demand freedom. That’s when it guns would make a difference.


In Europe they are still demanding more government. They’re a ways off.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4041 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:28 pm to
So does that mean, although we have them we are even further away from using them? I dont include me in that “we”.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15996 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:33 pm to
This is absolutely true. The "divine right of kings" is part of the DNA of most EU countries and the UK. Most of the EU sees Brussels as their new overlord.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18734 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:46 pm to
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So does that mean, although we have them we are even further away from using them? I dont include me in that “we”.


Good Q. I’d guess just the possession of arms would preclude the development of total tyranny. At least I think that’s what the founders expected.

Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4041 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:11 pm to
Wonder if these four coincidentally have the lowest occurrences of rape by immigrant?

Czech Republic
Handguns, rifles, shotguns Must pass proficiency exam, medical check, and background check
Self defense allowed -Yes

Switzerland
Handguns, rifles Requires a permit and background check
Self defense allowed- Yes

Austria
Handguns, rifles Must pass a background check and demonstrate need self defense allowed -Yes

Poland
Handguns, rifles Requires a license and background check
Self defense allowed- Yes
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