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re: World economic rankings.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Would you trade lives with the average Chinese?
One of the most stupid arguments you have ever made. I get you think this is a "Got cha", but it isn't.
- China started behind the world when we started this. They were in the lowest classification by the World Bank. Lower-middle-income. They are now Upper Middle Class and less than $650 GNI from being High-income and that's using Data from 2023.
- The dumbest thing you have ever suggested is that if the USA places tariffs, we will go backwards in time to when we were poor. DATA all around you shows you are just dumb! No nation has reverted to the dark ages by using tariffs.
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:52 am to BCreed1
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One of the most stupid arguments you have ever made.
Why? You said they were kicking your arse.
Were you lying again?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:52 am to SDVTiger
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So their total collapse is imminent?
Goalposts:
[x] Moved
[_] Not Moved
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:53 am to BCreed1
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They are now Upper Middle Class
Goddamn youre an idiot...
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:53 am to BCreed1
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Yet he shows that China is right there with us and growing at 78% per decade alomost 3 times as much as we are WITH USING TARIFFS!
You need to educate yourself. Robin's thread from last night should do it.
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What I call the "2023 Index" is the combination of the GDP and PCGDP rankings, to show like:like countries to compare. Not perfect or academic, but good enough to illustrate the point being made. The countries grouped together are similar economies to compare.
Then we can analyze the % growth from your OP chart with similar economies.
The first thing that should stand out is that the US has no "like" and we're on our own tier of dominance, far away from anybody who can argue to be #2.
The second thing that should stand out is that the US had the highest % of GDP growth with only one in contention, Australia at 25%, who funny enough, trades a shite-ton with China, too. Of China's largest non-Asian trading partners, the top 2 are: The US and Australia (Russia is in there but Russia is largely Asian, so you can include them if you want). You think there may be a causation in there, or do you think it's just correlation?
So, of the countries who have the economies that are the hardest to grow, the US still absolutely dominated. Where is this "money on the table" that you speak of?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
So no? You are wrong yet again. Shocking that you will claim thats now what you have said 
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:54 am to TD422
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And you raise your white flag when you tell others that they’re changing the topic of discussion
I think we can all agree changing the topic of discussion to a poster is not on topic or a natural progression of a discussion of economics or politics.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:55 am to BCreed1
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China started behind the world when we started this. They were in the lowest classification by the World Bank. Lower-middle-income. They are now Upper Middle Class and less than $650 GNI from being High-income and that's using Data from 2023.
Yeah. Nobody said that trade wouldn't benefit both parties to the transaction.
The question is why this is shocking to people like you.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:56 am to SDVTiger
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So no? Y
You're changing the argument to "win" as I predicted.
These are my actual words
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Covid hurt China bigly. It sped up their economic decline/fall.
Words not found in that post "total" or "collapse"
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
still no list of debt to GDP ratios
wonder why that is
Since our economy is bigger our large ratio means more.
Am I doing it right? We may even be on our own level of dominance.
wonder why that is
Since our economy is bigger our large ratio means more.
Am I doing it right? We may even be on our own level of dominance.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
So you admit you are wrong. Its not that hard Jake
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:58 am to SDVTiger
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So you admit you are wrong. I
Only in your straw man is that true.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 8:59 am to RohanGonzales
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still no list of debt to GDP ratios
We're talking about trade.
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wonder why that is
It's not relevant to the discussion (trade and economic rankings)
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:00 am to RohanGonzales
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still no list of debt to GDP ratios
Strange that you people claim that Trumps economy which was build on record debt was "the best ever"
Consistency aint ya;lls strength.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Goal posts moved again by you
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Were you lying again?
No Roger, you are.
Back to my post that you so desperately want to ignore and it to go away.
- China started behind the world when we started this. They were in the lowest classification by the World Bank. Lower-middle-income. They are now Upper Middle Class and less than $650 GNI from being High-income and that's using Data from 2023.
- The dumbest thing you have ever suggested is that if the USA places tariffs, we will go backwards in time to when we were poor. DATA all around you shows you are just dumb! No nation has reverted to the dark ages by using tariffs.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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They are now Upper Middle Class
Goddamn youre an idiot...
Are you saying the World Bank is wrong?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:05 am to BCreed1
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They are now Upper Middle Clas
Oh my god, you are one special little boy.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:08 am to BCreed1
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Are you saying the World Bank is wrong?
Relatively, yes.
So do you. This is "globalist" organization after all.
In relative terms, China is not upper middle class.
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The average monthly salary in China is 29,300 yuan, which is approximately $4,214 in U.S. dollars.
You have much more ladder to climb when youre on the bottom rung, than you do if youre at the top.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:09 am to BCreed1
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Are you saying the World Bank is wrong?
If youre comparing it to western nations, absolutely. And you are, see the title of the thread.
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